Not true. I remember reading a supreme court case about what constituted free speech on school grounds and what the schools were allowed to do to limit it. The students were definitely assumed to have a right to free speech. I don’t know where people get this idiotic notion that you have no rights until you’re 18. If that were true, child slavery would be a common practice.
So long as it is not disruptive. No matter how old a person is freedom will always be limited…but more so when you are a child in school. Its common sense.
En loco parentis. Every single school system in the United States makes parents and children sign a code of conduct or similar agreement. It basically makes the school your parent during school hours. Trust me, I researched it to try and call bs when I got in trouble…
There was a supreme court case that ruled that the bill of rights applies to minors as well. And the reason you cannot shoot someone in the face and cite the right to bear arms is that you would be infringing on the constitutional right to life. This would act as precedent in your trial because the constitution holds precedent over all other laws.
In 1969, the Supreme Court extended free speech rights to students in school, although the Supreme Court has, since then, placed a number of limitations, such as sexual innuendo in 1988 and drug promotion in 2007.
No, you could not. Why? Because legally owning a gun and murdering someone are two entirely different things. No one gave you the right to use the gun against someone, they only gave you the right to own it.
Your American rights do not kick in until you are 18. However, children (under 18) have there own set of rights as well, free speech is not one of them.
Also, when you are on school grounds, all your American rights are null and void. As an American, who went through the public school system, I’m fine with that.
Only in America would people be willfully ignorant of what they’re trying to talk about…
That what you meant to say? The “freedom of speech” means the government can not pursue you for what you say against it. It DOES NOT mean you can just blurt out whatever you want without some kind of societal repercussions.
Societal repercussions are not covered by the bill of rights. It’s a separate issue. Just because someone would face societal repercussions for exercising a right does not mean that right doesn’t exist. So, yes, you CAN blurt out whatever you want, as long as it does not infringe upon the rights of another person.
Actually First Amendment rights can be put on hold at school if it’s considered that it interferes with the operations of the school. The school’s right to operate and educate comes before the student’s right to use a cuss word, which is the case here, not suspending freedom of speech, but moderating language so that only that which is appropriate for school is used.
when I have a child…. if a teacher said this same thing to me… I would tell them to simply remind them that a great man once said “There are no bad words…. there’s bad thoughts, bad intentions, and words”
Minors have constitutional rights but regardless of age, rights are regulated and restricted all the time. Try shouting “fire” in a crowded theater and claim freedom of speech. Try telling your state Senator you’re going to kill him. There are limits to every “freedom”, some good, some bad.
Yes, you’re absolutely right that freedoms are restricted all the time, but your examples are sort of bad in regards to furthering that point. The Bill of Rights does not give people unlimited license to say anything they want, any time they want. It is very specific in that you cannot say things that infringe upon the rights of others. Shouting “Fire!” in a crowded theater would be infringing upon the rights of others, as would telling a senator you’re going to kill him.
Its a JOKE people! Jokes do not have to be relevant to law or human rights in order to be funny.
Look at the picture, laugh, move on.
Stop ruining things with your incessant need to be right.
Not just the internet, but Failblog. Where the comment section exists to give people a place to b¡tch (and earn ad dollars with every complaint they make).
Probably no teachers in this thread. Kids say fk all day everyday. Teachers/admins would be tied up endlessly if we fought that battle everytime. I suppose it depends on the area the school’s in, but the usual response is, “Please watch the (or your) language,” and that’s that.
The sad thing is that the next generation of kids will be just like this. Today’s kids have the worse mouths on them, and because of social media, it is way more wide-spread than ever before, and is becoming part of their regular vocabulary that they barely realize they said the word until you point it out to them. Then half of them start all of the stupid arguments about how it’s just a word blah blah blah. If it’s just a word, then why use that one when there are lots of other words to choose from?
Are you saying that when you were a kid, things were better? I bet you aren’t aware of the night when people stormed the field at Comiskey Park, got stoned, and blew up a giant crater in the outfield BEFORE A GAME WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PLAYED. No generation is any better or more “noble” than any other.
no generation is perfect. But, when most things were done for a cause: Comiskey Park – that was a DJ doing a skit during a planned (and paid for) show between innings. They were blowing up disco records, but the charge was bigger than needed. They also didn’t know that the crowd would react (in favor and against) as much as they did.
When I was a kid, the Vietnam war was still going on — I’d hardly call that “better”.
The point I’m trying to make is that people KNEW that certain behaviors were wrong, and they chose to do them anyway, for a reason (not always good reasons). Today’s generation, not so. They just do whatever, and have no reason why.
“Today’s generation, not so. They just do whatever, and have no reason why.”
Pigeonholing a rather large, rather diverse group of individuals sort of works against your favor when you’re trying to make a point. People have reasons for their bad behavior. You may not agree that the reasons are good ones, but that’s not really the point.
Friend of mine had his parents called into school in 1st grade. When they got there the teacher informed them that he had said “the f-word in class”. Apparently she found it totally unacceptable for him to say “fart” at school.
..the F**k, dude.
this was up last week
Do teachers really call parents because their kids made us of the human right of free speech?
… only in America I suppose :/
If I shot you dead with a handgun could I cite the legal right to bear arms, as defined by the Second Amendment, in my defense?
No, because that doesn’t specify “right to shot anyone in the face” as well….
Those rights only actually apply once you’re 18, and school environments have their own policies on stuff like that they are allowed to enforce.
Not true. I remember reading a supreme court case about what constituted free speech on school grounds and what the schools were allowed to do to limit it. The students were definitely assumed to have a right to free speech. I don’t know where people get this idiotic notion that you have no rights until you’re 18. If that were true, child slavery would be a common practice.
Child Slavery makes effective use of a ready workforce! Besides, have you seen the average American child lately? They are better off in a sweatshop!
Hey!…Yeaahh. You’re right.
F*ck statistics! That’s a damned lie!
So long as it is not disruptive. No matter how old a person is freedom will always be limited…but more so when you are a child in school. Its common sense.
En loco parentis. Every single school system in the United States makes parents and children sign a code of conduct or similar agreement. It basically makes the school your parent during school hours. Trust me, I researched it to try and call bs when I got in trouble…
No, SOME U.S. school systems not remotely all.
My son has attended four different schools in two school districts. Not once have any of us ever had to sign a code of conduct or similar.
There was a supreme court case that ruled that the bill of rights applies to minors as well. And the reason you cannot shoot someone in the face and cite the right to bear arms is that you would be infringing on the constitutional right to life. This would act as precedent in your trial because the constitution holds precedent over all other laws.
Logic’d
Right to life??? ohhhh I see…. like ABORTION!
THANK YOU
yeah they should outlaw sports as well; sometimes people scrape or bruise themselves. the deaths of those poor cells will be avenged!
In 1969, the Supreme Court extended free speech rights to students in school, although the Supreme Court has, since then, placed a number of limitations, such as sexual innuendo in 1988 and drug promotion in 2007.
but it should be. they’res more to freedom than not being a slave.
You have a right to bear arms. No one said you had a right to use them.
No, you could not. Why? Because legally owning a gun and murdering someone are two entirely different things. No one gave you the right to use the gun against someone, they only gave you the right to own it.
Your American rights do not kick in until you are 18. However, children (under 18) have there own set of rights as well, free speech is not one of them.
Also, when you are on school grounds, all your American rights are null and void. As an American, who went through the public school system, I’m fine with that.
Who told you that? In 1969, the Supreme Court extended free speech rights to students in school. Look it up.
Only in America would people be willfully ignorant of what they’re trying to talk about…
That what you meant to say? The “freedom of speech” means the government can not pursue you for what you say against it. It DOES NOT mean you can just blurt out whatever you want without some kind of societal repercussions.
Thank you!!!
Societal repercussions are not covered by the bill of rights. It’s a separate issue. Just because someone would face societal repercussions for exercising a right does not mean that right doesn’t exist. So, yes, you CAN blurt out whatever you want, as long as it does not infringe upon the rights of another person.
Actually First Amendment rights can be put on hold at school if it’s considered that it interferes with the operations of the school. The school’s right to operate and educate comes before the student’s right to use a cuss word, which is the case here, not suspending freedom of speech, but moderating language so that only that which is appropriate for school is used.
saying the F word in school…as a child….is not an exhibition of free speech. You douche!
^THIS – finally!
Uh, it’s a kid. Unless he’s emancipated at the age of eight, their legal rights are not valid until they reach majority age.
when I have a child…. if a teacher said this same thing to me… I would tell them to simply remind them that a great man once said “There are no bad words…. there’s bad thoughts, bad intentions, and words”
Yes, like the “heavy seven. The ones that’ll infect your soul, curve your spine, and keep the country from winning the war.
Spines are supposed to be curved…
*rolls eyes* It’s from fricken’ George Carlin, so please excuse the anatomical inaccuracy due to the fact that… IT’S A JOKE!
Which is why you will be a crap parent.
where does the right to bear arms end though? Nuclear arms?
It ends just after you chop the front legs off a bear and graft them to your shoulders.
it ends when you have repelled the domestic invaders from your home and including, if need be, government.
+ 10 internets for channeling George Washington!!!!!!!!
Minors have constitutional rights but regardless of age, rights are regulated and restricted all the time. Try shouting “fire” in a crowded theater and claim freedom of speech. Try telling your state Senator you’re going to kill him. There are limits to every “freedom”, some good, some bad.
Yes, you’re absolutely right that freedoms are restricted all the time, but your examples are sort of bad in regards to furthering that point. The Bill of Rights does not give people unlimited license to say anything they want, any time they want. It is very specific in that you cannot say things that infringe upon the rights of others. Shouting “Fire!” in a crowded theater would be infringing upon the rights of others, as would telling a senator you’re going to kill him.
Fail. But it probably is very true.
How would you like to suck mah ballz?
Its a JOKE people! Jokes do not have to be relevant to law or human rights in order to be funny.
Look at the picture, laugh, move on.
Stop ruining things with your incessant need to be right.
Sorry, but this is the internet. Your logic is wasted here.
Not just the internet, but Failblog. Where the comment section exists to give people a place to b¡tch (and earn ad dollars with every complaint they make).
Seriously. It’s a feckin joke. Get over it.
The discussion is much more interesting than the joke.
Probably no teachers in this thread. Kids say fk all day everyday. Teachers/admins would be tied up endlessly if we fought that battle everytime. I suppose it depends on the area the school’s in, but the usual response is, “Please watch the (or your) language,” and that’s that.
The sad thing is that the next generation of kids will be just like this. Today’s kids have the worse mouths on them, and because of social media, it is way more wide-spread than ever before, and is becoming part of their regular vocabulary that they barely realize they said the word until you point it out to them. Then half of them start all of the stupid arguments about how it’s just a word blah blah blah. If it’s just a word, then why use that one when there are lots of other words to choose from?
Are you saying that when you were a kid, things were better? I bet you aren’t aware of the night when people stormed the field at Comiskey Park, got stoned, and blew up a giant crater in the outfield BEFORE A GAME WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PLAYED. No generation is any better or more “noble” than any other.
no generation is perfect. But, when most things were done for a cause: Comiskey Park – that was a DJ doing a skit during a planned (and paid for) show between innings. They were blowing up disco records, but the charge was bigger than needed. They also didn’t know that the crowd would react (in favor and against) as much as they did.
When I was a kid, the Vietnam war was still going on — I’d hardly call that “better”.
The point I’m trying to make is that people KNEW that certain behaviors were wrong, and they chose to do them anyway, for a reason (not always good reasons). Today’s generation, not so. They just do whatever, and have no reason why.
“Today’s generation, not so. They just do whatever, and have no reason why.”
Pigeonholing a rather large, rather diverse group of individuals sort of works against your favor when you’re trying to make a point. People have reasons for their bad behavior. You may not agree that the reasons are good ones, but that’s not really the point.
name one bad word that hasnt been around longer than you…
Bong hits for Jesus: look it up, read the opinion. Knowledge
Friend of mine had his parents called into school in 1st grade. When they got there the teacher informed them that he had said “the f-word in class”. Apparently she found it totally unacceptable for him to say “fart” at school.