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that all depends on the rocker. you are talking nickelback or things of their genre, than yes. whoever posted this has never listened to awesomeness such as “In Flames”, “Trivium”, “All that remains”….etc.
Most of the times bands play a lot of notes BUT based on those 3 chords.
That doesn’t make any sense what you just wrote.
Sure you know what a chord is?
I kinda should since I study musicology.
then u should understand the difference.
You should choose a different major if you don’t know how tones relate to chords…
Let’s say we have a C, F, G7 progression. In the 3-Chord-Rock scenario we would play primarily C, E and G over the CMaj; F, A and C over the FMaj; and G, B, D and F over the G7. Sure you play other leading tones, but that’s all they are: leading tones.
Choose a different major or choose a different professor. I know musicology isn’t music theory, but I also know music theory is covered in there somewhere.
You think I don’t understand it, so I wrote it donesn’t make any sense? No. It’s simple you can’t play “a lot of notes based on 3 chords”. First of all, you can only play the notes that are in the key, but the main thing is – it’s not about the chords. I don’t know why is everyone relating everything in music to “chords”, you can’t play alot more than 4 in one movement, but you have to make a progression, to change the theme, that changes everything (even key), but you’re still playing small amount of tones, only you can play it fast (it would still be for example 4 notes, but if you do some tapping on a guitar, it would sound like you play the whole scale to alot of people), you can alternate or what the fu*k ever you want, that’s the beauty of music, but it has nothing to do with a number of chodrs in one movement. Also it has alot to do with rhythm, because most of the songs are 4/4 rhythm and it just sounds simple and with combination with 4 chords – viola, you have pop music. So if you want to talk music, let’s stop using a word chord in every sentence.
PS: Chord is still a bunch of notes. Kvintakord (Triad) has three tones, Septakord (Seventh chord) has four tones and if we’re talking guitar, you’re basicaly using an interval of prima (unison), kvarta (perfect fifth) and octave. That’s power chord and it’s so trivial, it’s nearly not even a chord. Also you know who else used four chords in one movement – Beethoven. Listen to Ode to joy or Moonlight sonata, it has 4 chords and a leading vox.
“I don’t know why is everyone relating everything in music to “chords”
Because we’re discussing guitars, and people who aren’t formally trained in music theory who play guitar think entirely in terms of chords.
As the parent alluded, you’ve obviously memorized a lot of textbook theory but you have no actual experience or exposure to music in real life. Unless you’re planning on teaching a course in a school or overcharging parents to give their kids classical piano lessons, you really ought to change majors.
Yes, I have no experience. I play four instruments, I’m about to graduate in musicology, but I have no experience. WTF? How did you get that from what I wrote? And no, we are not discussing only guitars, because either in rock and jazz music, guitar is not the only instrument. Especially in jazz. And if you think entirely in terms of chords how are you supposed to come up with leads, harmonies, voices for other instruments? That’s just completely wrong to think about music as a bunch of chords.
THIS MAKES ME SO ANGRY . RAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Sorry to hear that.
Dude. Musicology = the study of music. Studying musicology = studying the study of music. You know what they mean, stop being a pedant and so will I.
^huh??? how about like Dying Fetus??? now that is a jazz band that has a rocker name. ^.^
a black metal artist plays 1 chord to 3 people
Living Colour would like a word with you.
I’d like to give him the benefit of a doubt and think he’s referring the Black Metal genre (e.g bands like Immortal) but I’d disagree with him on both counts
I remember that show, jim carey, lmao
Try listening to some of it before you make generalizations.
^ three people.
But people like the rocker more. It doesn’t matter how many chords you play if they don’t connect with the audience. That’s why Nickelback is better- they connect with their audience.
Nickelback can ONLY be better than freeform jazz… It hurts to say they’re better than anything.
I think Nickelback is better than a lot of music- it’s just my opinion. Everyone likes different music, no one is right or wrong.
Nickelback > Justin Bieber
who is Nickelback, and why is the same sentence with the word “Jazz”????
We’re talking about things that are garbage.
you honestly dont know who nickleback is??????? wow
They know it enough to spell it properly, and it’s a play on how they are so far removed from Jazz it is unimaginable. You’re welcome.
Should it not be. Who ARE Nickelback.? Also. You honestly don’t know who Nickelback ARE?
Among other mistakes.
I hate to say it, but Nicleback isn’t the best example for your arguement. Maybe try to think of some better Rock bands to bring up for your debate. Just saying.
Such as Queen, or Cream. I know, not very modern, but still rock. I’d say that even if he only played those three chords, Eric Clapton made them sound awfully pretty.
You’re confusing “better” with “more popular”, the two are not the same.
Trivium?! [o__O]
They used to be my favoritest band ever.
I still like some of their stuff, but I’m definitely more involved with black metal these days.
The major difference is the F hole guitars. And apparently the author of the meme hasnt heard of dragonforce.
Most of the world hasnt heard of any dragonforce music. Except for the guitar hero song they have.
And the world is better for it. Have you heard any of their live stuff? I’d listen to Nickleback BEFORE I go back to listening to Dragonforce.
Agreed; aside from being bad live all their songs are quite similar without pulling the 3 chord trick. I don’t know how they manage to do it, but you hear one of their albums and you’ve heard them all!
Well even the band members of dragonforce can’t play some songs twice in the same way
Dragonforce? Pshhhhhhhh Rhapsody of Fire.
This. Dragonforce = Studioforce, they can’t play live aren’t creative at all. Rhapsody annihilates them as far as any kind of musical talent goes. Luca Turilli is a god.
Awesome folk and classical influences.
Dragonforce? sounds like something my nine year would come up with, is it a cartoon?
if you hear one song you’ve heard them all
INB4 Rock n Roll Hipsters…oh wait. Nevermind.
Are we now reserving the word “hipster” for people who are more knowledgeable of bands that aren’t mainstream?
That’s not to say that at this point MOST people have already heard of Dragonforce at this point, but I’ve seen this argument many times on here that if you enjoy bands that don’t get played on the radio, it makes you some kind of hipster.
I’m a metalhead and in my experience, hipsters think they’re too high-brow for the bands I listen to. Your definition of being a hipster must differ from mine.
Dragonforce used autotune in one of their songs. They also used electronic drums. Therefore, they are a garbage band.
Samael are using e-drums too. And I think they are actually pretty good
Tee hee… “F hole”
This is so misinformed XD. But jazz is great because of how influential it has been on other genres.
Jazz is great.
I’m joining the “No one disagrees-club”!
Dragon Force only use about 3 or 4 chords per song
Maybe even per career.
maybe u should get a real picture of slash instead of one from a video game box, he plays more then 3 cords
“more then (sic) 3 cords (sic)”
FFS!
That may be true, but Slash is still rightfully praised. Guy is better than nearly everybody.
Jimi Hendrix was the best, Eric Clapton a close second, and while Slash might stand on their shoulders he is also his own artist, and thus very awesome. Easily one of the best modern guitarists.
They really should have found a better picture. I like his hair, and that hat is too much fun!
I love both Jazz and Rock/Hard Rock/Metal etc… But the picture depicted of Slash was bit unfair… it’s mostly the mainstream punkrock and poprock bands that abuse 3 chords.
“mainstream punkrock”….explain yourself please.
must mean green day
Green Day, The Offspring, Foo Fighters, Rise Against, Sum 41, Anberlin, Alkaline Trio, AFI…
They all come up with pretty interesting licks at times, but all of them abuse the 3, or 4, chord technique.
Unfair, I have 20 years playing metal and I love jazz also, lol, did you hear Rush, Yes, Led Zeppeling? buuu, you Fail at Fail.
I love Led Zeppeling!
So how do you zepple?
I zepple with lead.
Whoever is telling me Slash only plays 3 chords can promptly kiss my ass.
lool
no thanks.
I doubt the author of this meme has heard of the one they call Buckethead.
tried. Sounded like a kid playing with recording equipment. Boring.
Les is more.
Primus sucks?
maybe he’s referring to les paul. ever give that a thought?
I would hope he is. Primus does suck.
Clearly this person and several people commenting have never seen an authorized guitar book by any artist. Best example, pick up the tab book for any Metallica album, you’ll find about several different power chords in there, and yes they are chords. This post is severely misinformed.
Personally I consider power “chords” to be only an interval, and then an octave.
I agree with everybody else that it is definitely a good idea to take everything 100% word-for-word.
nickel what? i know there are many good jazz players but IMO David Guilmour it’s way better \m/ ROCK BLUES FTW
I think it’s wrong to compare the grandchild to the grandparent. Rock wouldn’t exist without Jazz, or Blues for that matter. It is unfair to say that one is better than the other.
Jazz is unique because the focus is less on the audience and more on the artist.
This is a matter of playing to, or playing for, an audience. Jazz plays to the listener, and Rock is played for the listener. Not a wide difference, but life is in the nuance.
Both genres have merit, and beauty, and artistry.
Well, that’s just not true. There’s also a lot of very repetitive, boring jazz out there. I hate it when people overgeneralize.
No, Slipknot plays 3 chords. Expand your music knowledge, listen to Sonata Arctica, Darkane, Destinity, Scar Symmetry, all of them instead
Dream Theater, Tool, Iron Maiden, Megadeth, Tool, Symphony X, Mastodon, Avenged Sevenfold, Meshuggah, Nile, Black Sabbath, Fear Factory, Judas Priest, Lamb of God, Pantera, Rage Against the Machine, System of a Down, Yngwie Malmsteen. That is all. Good day to you, sir.
It’s not at all all, but it’s a pretty good start. Oceansize, Bubblemath, Kylesa, Opeth, Vessels, Fredrik Thordendals Special Defects, …Trail of Dead, Machine Head, Shining, Gojira, Ulver, Mayhem, Kong, Amplifier, Mew, Motorpsycho, White Denim, Focus, and, sporadically, Porcupine Tree, Pure Reason Revolution and Muse.
All great bands who know 300 chords and play in front of, like, 30 people!!!
try one, yourself included
It’s a funny joke. As any guitarist knows it will take a person a lot longer to master the jazz guitar than it will to master rock guitar. But the audience, for the most part, doesn’t appreciate that. If you want to get people up dancing in a night club forget trying to play anything monumental. Just play Mustang Sally. And if you can moonwalk while playing ANYTHING on the guitar most people in the club will think you are the greatest guitar player of all time!! Lol. Pop music = lowest common denominator.
You are comparing the likeness of bands such as “Dying Fetus” and “Primus” to the likeness of the guitar god in this picture… half of you probably don’t even know who he is, you’re an insult to rock if you don’t. In Flames, Dream Theatre, Hammerfall, Pantera, Megadeth, Metallica, Symphony X… you seem to all be metal heads, but the ones with good taste at least lol It just upsets me when people think ALL rock is is pig squeals… we’ve dropped far too low… even Avenged Sevenfold is starting to sound like Metallica wannabe’s… There’s more to rock than just metal, explore it, maybe one day rock may be revived in the aftermath of Lady Gaga if you do… remember “Rock n roll aint noise pollution” bonus points if you got that reference
A rocker gets his d!ck sucked by two groupies at the same time!!! A jazzman moonlights as gigolo jerking off two dudes at the same time!
U MAD BRO?
What on earth does that have to do with the chords they play?
Nothing at all, except he apparently bases an artist’s worth on how many groupies they get and most likely vicariously lives through them.
In an attempt to seem more cultured, generalizes and thereby dismisses other genres of music. Fail.
It’s just like the people who pat themselves on the back for “appreciating all kinds of music” and not only make exceptions for certain genres, but doesn’t listen to anything that isn’t played on the radio.
My taste in music may not be that universal and I may not be a musical expert, but unlike the original poster, at least I’m not pretending it is. Quite frankly, while I can appreciate the talent of some artists who compose music that belong to genres I dislike, I’m rather candid about my preferences. I’m not going to bluff that I enjoy everything just to seem more interesting, artistic, or worldly. I like metal, EBM, and darkwave, and I make no pretenses about that.
Well said
It is only ‘well said’ if you wholly ignore the glaring grammatical errors in their text.
If there are any, sorry, and I try to avoid them, but I think my point gets across just fine with or without any. IThe intention of my statement is seems clear as day, but perhaps I’m just biased having posted it. I understand that it looks sloppy, but seems a bit pedantic of you to overlook the content of my message, which you seem to grasp just fine regardless, just to criticize my grammar.
Yes, I am a bit sensitive about this kind of thing because I’m an aspiring writer, and articulating myself as well as possible is important to me. I admit to having remarked on people’s grammar here before, but it doesn’t really bother me that much if the message itself seems idiotic or condescending.
Just in case it bothers you too much, Disruptive, ignore the “I” at the beginning of my second sentence. I understand an accidentally misplaced letter must be such a strain on your eyes.
*but IT seems a bit pedantic of you…
*unless the message itself seems idiotic or condescending.
I think you just like reading your own post.
Do you like “Flowing Tears”?
I’ve heard of them, but I’ve never heard them. I’ll look them up sometime.
Ahhh, no one mentioned Voivod.
Slash used to play in front of more than 60,000 people … just saying
A jazzman plays no chords in front of one hipster.
Geez folks, it’s a joke. It’s not an insult to either jazz or rock players. Personally I’d much rather play three chords to 3,000 people. It’s a lot less work and you can make more money. Like Dire Straits said, “Money for nothing and your chicks for free”. Then I can play jazz to 3 egg heads for fun on my days off, lol. Of course, if you’re Larry Coryell or Al Demeola you’re going to be playing for more than 3,000. The truth behind the joke is that it points out discrepancies in how musicians are respected and compensated based on popular notions of music. I can play my heart out all night, but then if I jump up on the bar and play, people go crazy. What difference does that make in the way I’m playing guitar? Zero. Most musicians are not paid for their ability. They are paid for the audiences perception of their ability. A great rock solo is dependent on having hot pickups, a great amp, cool effects. But what if you took that away and just played straight guitar through a regular amp. Well, you’d probably have a crappy jazz guitar player then, lol.
A guitar solo with no special effects is still sick; listen to Sweet Child O’ Mine in the car some time.
3000 chords eh… name them…
last time I checked, its about 2000 approx including split chords…
and who “openly” listens to jazz? and why does your cigarette smell funny?
Judgmental troll is judgmental.
If you listen to rock, then you listen to jazz. One would not exist without the other.
So then jazz wouldn’t exist without rock?
I enjoy both. I also pump my head full of the crap played on the radio. And then I try to memorize the good parts and use them myself.
The guy on the left is CGI caricature of Slash who was a student* of Julliard. Hardly a “three chorder”
*Slash not the caricature
Just 4 chords for a hit pop song:
Is pop man, you talk about a low quaility cheap product to sell to ignorants created by record firms.
Metal, Blues, Jazz, that’s music man.
While the Metalz0rz play 3000 chords in front of 3000 people. ^-^
This is retarded on so many levels.
two things, one, rocker and jazzman are too general to apply any kind of style to. Two, this whole argument and pic offended me more then racial sterotypes and ignorant people combined. and i really hate ignorant people, which is why i try not to argue about things i don’t know about.
LOL he doesn’t know what a chord is or what rock is
Wow, all this over a joke poster.
I’m glad I’m just a hack.