“Jesus Christ” is not a name. Jesus is. Christ isn’t – if anything, it’d be a title. There are millions of Jesuses in the world, but I’m going to assume you mean the fictional Jesus of Nazareth here.
He was not a lord. He was a Jewish hobo, his mother kept claiming she never had sexual relations with a carpenter, end he ended up pissing off the wrong people and got his arse nailed to a cross as a result. Threehundred years later, some clever novelist decided to write a book about him, and it became the best selling fantasy novel of all time, long before Tolkien ever dreamed up his first Hobbit.
I tend to follow a similar thought, except I think he saw something wrong with how the jews treated the uncool kids (y’know, lepers, women during their periods, pigs, the Gentiles) and thought he should hang out with them and get to know them. This pissed off the Establishment who nailed him to a cross to make an example of him – however it backfired and it made him a martyr instead, leading to the best-selling novel.
TL;DR version, Jesus was the world’s first hippie, hanging out with the uncool kids and stickin’ it to the man.
There is no bigger obnoxious a**hole then the atheist. I don’t doubt the fact that you exist, although i am sure many people pretend you don’t. A troll is a troll, you sir, are trolling. Christianity at it’s heart, is a religion of peace and tolerance…don’t blame the entire religion for a small percentage of fundamentalists. However, you have a completely polarized view of religion: you are either an athiest or an idiot. In reality, one of us is delusional. Leave Christians with their delusions and i’ll leave you with yours.
You are completely correct that one of you is delusional. Very astute of you to mention that the religion you follow is a religion of ‘peace and tolerance’ when you just called someone an obnoxious a**hole. Well done Christian, well done you should be very proud of negating your own point
Being peaceful and tolerant generally means your first sentence to someone you don’t know isn’t calling an entire group of people obnoxious a**holes, yes. And then complaining that you are being marginalized not five seconds after putting down an entire group of people.
Bingo! Stop using your religious preference as an excuse to wave some “I’m better than you banner” because you just look like a tool (this goes for ALL religions/sports teams/political teams/etc. etc. etc.).
Peace and tolerance? Sure as long as you believe how i believe pray how pray aren’t gay, and give me money. Christianity was a way of controlling and forcing a government beliefs on a people they felt were less then human. More people and cultures have been lost to “our” god then anything else.
Peace and Tolerance? That’s good for a laugh. If you were not aware, the instruction manual for your chosen form of shared dementia says it’s perfectly acceptable to publicly execute someone without a trial for any number of reasons, such as being homosexual, or being a foreigner, or following a different brand of your religion, or being your wife.
Christians are among some of the most intolerant people I can think of. At least Muslims acknowledge that Jesus Christ existed. They don’t put him on as high of a pedestal as Christians, but most Christians don’t even know who Mohammed was.
I’m not the most religious person, but I have a hard time believing your generalization. Most people I know are Christian, or at the very least, some sort of Deist. I don’t know what kind of rock you live under where “most” Christians still believe that homosexuals, foreigners, followers of other religions, and wives deserve to be executed, nor do they not know who Mohammed was.
If I didn’t know any better, I’d think you were pulling that “most” out of your ass, unless you were raised surrounded by atheists and surrounded by so few Christians that you’re founding your “anecdotal evidence” only on the ones you’ve met, or you live in a paranoid plastic bubble.
Or, you could be exaggerating because you know that your argument is just as bigoted and self-righteous as the bible-thumper at your door at five in the morning.
You think only Christians aren’t bigoted against homosexuals?
And the fundamentalists and extremists don’t represent an entire group of people. I thought we might have cleared that one up but clearly I was expecting too much.
What’s funny is how you’re trying to wax all progressive but, with your logic, you’re really no different than the paranoid right wing fruitcakes who believe that all Moslems are terrorists, despite how hard you try to come across as the complete opposites.
Extreme Christians and extreme atheists hate each other because they’re both the same and don’t even realize it.
But isn’t that the point – that Christians are NOT leaving us alone? Reaction to YET ANOTHER in an infinite list of demands by Christians to bend ourselves to their belief system is not being an obnoxious atheist, it’s simply being fed up.
Hey, man. I’m an Atheist. I’ve done nothing to harm you, nor am I being disrespectful. If someone’s being a gorilla, don’t blame them because of the religion. Isn’t that against Christianity? Judgment? I’m a nice guy, I just can’t bring myself to imagine something like Christianity. Therefore, I chose Atheism. It doesn’t mean I don’t like you, God, or anyone else. It’s simply my belief. You believe in God? That’s okay with me. Most- ALL of my friends are Christian. Listen, man, don’t call US idiots. Call HIM an idiot for insulting you. Please try to understand that not all Atheists are pricks. Thanks.
Seal64, you have so many “facts” wrong its laughable. I suggest that you go back to the drawing board and try again….. In the mean time, I will be praying for you.
See, if you were at least a little bit intelligent, slightly rational, and somewhat educated, you would realize that the standards which apply to a belief system CAN NOT be applied to a simple yes/no answer on a single subject. As an added bonus, you would also be far more likely to reject the absurdity of religion. Alas, you did not win the genetic lottery – a problem which has been further exacerbated by the failings of your parents, friends, and teachers.
Thanks for your concern, though, Ryan. I hope you have a swell day.
What are you trying to prove, exactly? I’m wondering, because what you’re succeeding in proving is that militant atheists are the exact same type of smug, officious, high-horse-riding blabbermouths they put so much effort into actively hating. It would be funny if it wasn’t so obnoxious.
You use the word “militant” as i it were derogatory. You appear to be confused. The problem with theists isn’t that they’re “militant” or “smug”, “officious” or “high-horse riding blabbermouths”. They certainly ARE those things, but that, in and of itself is not a problem. No, the issue here is that they’re gullible, superstitious fools, whose idiotic “faiths” are a throwback to a time when our species was in it’s infancy. The issue at hand is that their primitive beliefs cause incalculable harm to the human race as a whole. If they wanted to be smug militant a**holes while pushing measures which are actually BENEFICIAL, we wouldn’t have a problem.
Of course, you understand this. I know that you do. You’re just trying to act like a quasi-intellectual moral relativist, because it makes you feel superior to the “squabbling rabble”. However, we can expose the hypocrisy of your “position” with a simple though experiment. Imagine, for a minute, that we had a group of people who insisted that President Bush was a god. Imagine they spent inordinate amounts of time obsessing over What Bush Would Do, and, any time they hit a snag in their lives, they prayed to Bush to rescue them. Imagine they taught their children that anyone who doesn’t believe in the Divinity of Bush is an Evil person, who will be tortured for all of eternity in Guantanamo Bay. Imagine they refused to vote for anyone who wasn’t Bush, or at least didn’t share the same belief. Imagine they insisted that schools teach that Bush created the entire universe 6,000 years ago, and that anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar. Imagine that they repeatedly and illegally went on to teach those things in public schools, even after being defeated in courts dozens of times. Imagine that, even after Bush dies, these people would continue to insist that future presidents base their policy decisions on the guidance of Bush.
Now imagine that there’s a handful of people standing here in slack-jawed bewilderment, occasionally yelling “NO!! YOU RETARDS FULL OF S**T!!!”.
Would you be as quick to accuse the latter group of being militant? Would you try to draw comparisons between them? I think not.
Glad we could clear that up! With any luck, you’ll eventually outgrow your moral-relativism stage. Cheers!
By the way, your “I’m not hateful because I’M RIGHT!!!111eleven!” excuse doesn’t wash. In case you haven’t noticed, most people on this planet believe they are right. Does that mean they are all immune from charges of hatefulness? Of course not.
Good thing I reed your comment. I was about to post the same kind of argument. My analogy would have been with a group worshiping fairies but Bush is even funnier because we know he would be a retarded god (He’s not even good at being human, I couldn’t imagine how bad of a god he would do). Go for it Joe. They might understand one day.
Based on my belief in my magical invisible space friend who has existed before time, I hereby declare Ryan Waxx to be a delusional idiot and possibly a eunuch. Have a nice day.
Hey, if you say “invisible friend” enough, it’ll make you sound clever and original. Not.
Negative five thousand points for creativity.
I’m not even agreeing with the person who started all of this, but just as shrill as they are is that you trying to be smarter than everyone else by borrowing everyone else’s words from them.
See, everyone? The hivemind: It’s not just for Christians anymore!
I said invisible friend only once, and you somehow believe I said it repeatedly in an attempt to sound witty. Tell me, how do paint chips taste? I’ve always been curious.
And since we don’t have an edit button, if I was trying to be smart I would have decimated that run-on garbage you threw up on the screen instead of implying that someone doesn’t have testicles.
errr…no. Religions don’t have ‘facts’. That’s why they’re generally referred to as ‘faiths’.
There is no proof anything in the Bible actually happened, therefore there can be no ‘facts’, only faith and belief.
The Bible is pretty much a long fantasy novel that people took too seriously imo, but that’s me.
I believe the opposite to be true. Faith is knowing something is true for sure despite other people claiming it is false. It is not something you feel to be right because it feels good, it is something you know deep inside, but not everyone can be convinced. This is not only true for religious faith.
The bible is absolutely not a fantasy novel. It is a history book with many proven events. I can understand that you don’t believe in miracles, but don’t call the bible a fantasy novel.
The bible is a fantasy novel, and the willingness of idiots to have faith is a massive problem. People don’t “just know” stuff. If we did, we wouldn’t need science. When you tell me that you “just know” something, what you’re really telling me is that you’re a stubborn jacka** who is unwilling to learn, unwilling to reason, and unwilling to look at evidence. You’ve made up your mind, and no amount of evidence will ever change it. You are, in short, a fool, and should be treated as a borderline mental-case by anyone who isn’t similarly afflicted.
Of course, theists aren’t the only one with this problem – the same goes for believers in “alternative medicine”, “psychics”, “alien abduction”, conspiracy theories, and all kinds of superstitions. Most of them won’t actually come out and SAY that they “have faith”, but you can easily tell which ones are True Believers after a short discussion. I don’t really care what kind of ridiculous nonsense you decide to have faith in, because faith itself is the root problem.
Why do you misquote me? I never said “just know”.
I really like science(im studying for electrical engineer and i am a embedded programmer). I am also fond of reasoning.
Your faith in that the bible is “a fantasy novel” seems strong. I could use the exact arguments you just made to defend my point of view.
And the difference between “know deep inside” and “just know” is …. ?
Tell me, as someone who is “studying for electrical engineer” (and apparently failing English) – if someone came to you and said “I know deep inside that electricity can’t really hurt me”, what would your response be? “Oh, ok. As long as you know deep inside you must be right!”?
Ok, you say you can be rational, so show me. If a Christian and a Muslim both “know deep inside” that theirs is the one true religion, how do you reconcile that?
Start using your head instead of your “gut”. You’ll get much farther in life. And, as an engineer, you’ll be less likely to get people killed. I want my engineers THINKING, not praying.
Sorry for my bad english. I’m dutch and do not write that well in english.
A gut is not capable of though. So why bring it up?
If someone thinks electricity can’t hurt him it is probably ignorance or a logical error, not because someone knows it for sure. With knowing deep inside i mean that it is not a though, but more like how you make sense of the world around you. Just like maths and the laws of nature. Some things just make sense, but not everyone has a clear view of it. So quite the opposite of a feeling or a simple thought.
I never said that all faiths are right. That’s just a stupid politically correct point of view.
Ah, hell, I’m sorry. Your English is excellent for someone who lives in a non-English-speaking nation. Unfortunately it clearly IS a slight barrier to us understanding each other. From my perspective you seem to be contradicting yourself all over the place, but I can’t tell if that’s a language issue, or faulty reasoning. If we were having this discussion through e-mail, I would keep trying to narrow down that uncertainty, and would include more detail in what I wrote to you, but this isn’t the right place to have that kind of conversation.
Actually, I believe they have found records (not biblical, but I can’t remember exactly what the records were in reference to) that prove that there was in fact a Jesus of Nazareth. Whether he was or was not the embodiment of God on earth, is immaterial XD
Wow, so many errors in so few sentences. I assume you are a troll or worse have read the davinci code. You could of course be ignorant of basic facts, but i assume that you did some research before telling everyone your story.
Your argument about “Jesus Christ” not being a swear word is laughable.
First you call Jesus of Nazareth fictional, then you bash him. You can’t say both. Your having your cake and eating it too.
Second you say there are millions of Jesuses but only one Jesus called “Jesus Christ”. That means that it IS a swear word. Your conclusion doesn’t fit your argument(non sequitur) .
Darth Vader was and always will be a completely fictional character. Jesus did exist. Whether or not you believe the things that are written about him is besides the point.
If I said that I have proof that Darth Vader was actually a woman I would be lying, because there is no way to have a source for that, because that character exists only in a fictional world, not in the real world.
If you claim facts about a real person, you can, but you better point out the source.
If you say a person is fictional you can’t claim facts about that person. And if you don’t point out the source your story won’t make any sense.
First you call Bella and Edward fictional, then you bash them. You can’t say both. You’re having your cake and eating it too.
Second you say there are millions of Bellas and Edwards but only one Bella and Edward called “Twilight”. That means that it IS a swear word. Your conclusion doesn’t fit your argument(non sequitur) .
Since when did Twilight became a religion?
Let me explain my argument in a way you can understand.
The person I responded to claimed that Jesus was fictional, but he also claimed he was real and bashed him by spreading lies about him.
Nobody believes Twilight is real and nobody prays to Bella and Edward, and nobody who dislikes Twilight says that Bella and Edward live in Scotland and have two million flying dwarf kids.
So a character is either fictional and you like or dislike that character for what is said about that character, or the character is real and you like or dislike that character and you can use alternative sources to claim facts about that person. You can not have both. And if you use source you should refer to them.
Because people outside your collective have to treat with respect all of your words and symbols when the respect you provide to outsiders in return is to threaten eternal torture.
Actually, you willfully choose to believe in a system who’s narrative threatens torment to anyone different than your own kind. You could have chosen a non-hostile belief system like buddhism or none at all, but you decided you like the one that lets you be institutionally aggressive towards outsiders whilst scapegoating your deity for your hate.
As for using a name that holds no meaning whatsoever to me as a curse, well I’m sure you’d have no qualms against saying my name as a curse. It might sound silly to anyone who heard it because it doesn’t carry the years of usage as an expletive that jesus fukcing christ does, but whatever floats your boat.
To be fair, most of them don’t choose their belief system – they’re indoctrinated into it as children. You can’t hold them responsible for the brainwashing they underwent – only for their continued refusal to reexamine what they’ve been told.
Very true, children can’t be held responsible for the lack of critical thinking that puts them into this position. An adult bears the responsibility of using their judgment to stick with or change their position.
Sometimes you get lucky though, like I did when I was young, and get yourself out of said religion while you’re young (though that’s probably a lot more difficult with ultra-religious families and the like). I just wish I’d held onto that wisdom as I grew older XD
Dude you got something wrong there. It’s ‘Lord Voldemort’ whose name you should be afraid of. Jesus Christ was just that hippie that probably didn’t even exist two thousand years ago.
That only depends on the religion for who your higher power might be. He didn’t badmouth the flying spaghetti monster, so his followers probably were’nt offended.
You’re right mm. There is no such thing as a “Swear Word” in the first place, since you want to be technical about things.
The Bible prohibits you from cursing, it doesn’t matter WHAT word you use. If you use it as a curse you’re violating your own rules. So if I say “Holy Snot!” that’s just as much of a Curse as saying “Holy S***!”
If you are frustrated and utter the word “Christ!” then yes it’s a curse, you just made it one. If you say “bollox” or “drat” or “gosh darn it” it’s NO different.
But we already knew you were a sinner who can’t ever do things right. The Bible told me so.
Anyone contemplating starting a family should watch Bill Cosby “Himself” first. It is the most realistic parenting DVD out there.
[in the hospital room after the birth of their first baby]” … and I looked at it… and it wasn’t getting any better. So I went over to my wife, and kissed her ever so gently on the lips, and I said “I love you, very very much dear. You just… had… a lizard.” I mean, because the thing changed colors like, five times! And I said to the doctor, “Can you put this back? Cause it isn’t finished cooking! It needs to cook two, three months!” But the hospital made us take it home.”
I love the little things that can spark a religious war. Apparently being secure in your faith means you go on paragraph-long tangents because someone dared to say “Jesus Christ”.
And because most Christians have trouble understanding that their Manual says to not Curse, it doesn’t say not to use “naughty words” or “foul language”.
Any word is a Curse if used as one. Saying “freak” or “frack” or “gosh darn it all to heck” is 100% as much of a curse as using the “naughty” words they are trying to avoid.
I see them that way too. The one nice thing about being in my 30s is that when I was like 20 and said I never want to have kids, everyone lold and said ‘oh you’ll be singing a different tune when you’re older.’ Now when I still say the same thing at least they believe me.
THANK YOU! I’m in my 20′s now, and I almost feel pressured into having children by my family and even some of my friends. I am in no way interested in having a child, and being around them just makes me feel awkward and uncomfortable.
thanks, but that’s the thing though. When you get a little older there is a lot more pressure around you to get married and have kids, and it’s a lot harder to say you don’t want to at that point. A lot of people don’t really expect you to be married or have kids at 20, but they start expecting it of you when you’re 25 or so and you see all your friends doing it. Thankfully I was lucky in that my family never pressured me to do that, and that’s probably a large part of why I still don’t want to. But at least now at my age they actually believe that I was serious about it.
Yep, this pretty much. Brace yourself, the world will be at your reproductive will soon enough:
Me, at 19: “Babies aren’t cute. They’re loud, NASTY and obnoxious. They tie you down and restrain your life. I will adopt a semi-grown child if I ever elect to care for a child.”
World, in response: “Ohhhhhhh you’ll hear the clock ticking by the time you’re almost 27 and you’ll want a baaaaaybeeeeee!”
Me, NOW, at 32: “Babies aren’t cute. They’re loud, NASTY and obnoxious. They tie you down and restrain your life. I will adopt a semi-grown child if I ever elect to care for a child.”
World: “YOU’RE A CREEPY SELFISH MONSTER! HOW COULD YOU NOT WANT TO BE COVERED IN INFANT FECES AND MILK VOMIT?! THE WORLD NEEDS MORE BAAAYBEEEEEES!”
oh, there’s a special place in my heart for people who tell you you are somehow “selfish” for not wanting to have a kid. If anything, you would be selfish to *want* to have a kid, because no matter how you look at it you are having it because *you* want to, not because the kid wanted to. Having a kid when you have no desire to have one results in exactly the kind of parent a kid would not want or need, and calling a parent “selfish” when they’re actually responsible enough not to have a kid out of pressure or obligation is the worst kind of nerve.
YES! I have to hear about how all my cousins had five kids each by the time they were my age. It says more about how my cousins can’t keep their legs closed than how much of a weirdo I am.
I guess the world will have to struggle by on the 7 billion people it has, since I’m not adding any more.
And hang onto the annoying idiots chiming in with their “You’ll want a baaaaybeee!” garbage for now, because when you’re twice your age and still saying the exact same thing, they’ll start calling you a callous, selfish demon for not wanting to live like Michelle Duggar.
I don’t know, but if you look at the picture, the copyright notice, and the URL printed on it (NOT the fail-whatever one which was added) I’ll bet you would find out.
For something that “doesn’t exist”, atheists sure love wasting energy fighting against it and the people who are “wrong”, simply because their opinions are different.. When someone says they’re atheists, I’ve never used that as an excuse to start an argument trying to prove that person is wrong. that’s not my job.
I just go “Cool story bro”, and move along. Which is something atheists absolutely cannot resist. As soon as anything religious is mentioned, they start with the name calling, and go on and on about how stupid a person can be for believing something they can’t see, because missing limbs don’t grow back.
Um… it was the fundy twatwaffle that started the religious bulls**t, not the atheists. And if you think missing limbs are the strongest argument against a sky pixie… whewwwww…
Is the aspartam of these words? Welcome the holy union of invertible offensives! This will be the way of the berries, berries. Via equus homini mundi. Modus potentia veni.
Congratulations people, you have made a Darwin declaration. Leave the child rearing to those who know what they’re doing: The Octomom and the Duggars… (/sarc)
How the f*cking hell did a joke about how disgracefully disgusting babies are turn into a religious debate???
P.S
No floating mystical biens of ANY sort are real. Seriously people, you guys sound like a bunch of little kid debating “Santa.”
But Honestly, I have nothing against idiots who believe in something that is entirely impossible and just plain lack every form of common sense possible. You people just take a bit longer to grow up, then maybe you’ll realize we are just overgrown bastardly monkey creatures with too much free time.
Yes Santa works in mysterious way, through channels like our parents but he is real. If you are real good you might get an actual gift from him but for less than perfects like us Santa send us gift through spiritual powers influencing our parents.
Exactly. Plus they draw attention away from me.
Thats why I would adopt…the whole giving birth thing skeeves me out
Also, you can’t get pregnant through back-rubs and blowjobs.
True story.
Oh It’s worse than you could ever imagine.. I still have nightmares… If you’re OCD maybe Babies aren’t the best thing for you..
The cartoonist needs more respect. The lord’s name is not a swear word.
Clearly, he’s ASKING Jesus Christ. And if He doesn’t know what the Hell it is, then it needs to be killed with fire.
LOL, that’s a good one.
or what?
Dear mister Troll,
Please elaborate.
Regards,
daughterofmouse
your the Daughter of a mouse your not real. Although i’m stinky cheese so I have no room to talk.
Your grammar stinks too however I doubt you’re overly bothered.
“Jesus Christ” is not a name. Jesus is. Christ isn’t – if anything, it’d be a title. There are millions of Jesuses in the world, but I’m going to assume you mean the fictional Jesus of Nazareth here.
He was not a lord. He was a Jewish hobo, his mother kept claiming she never had sexual relations with a carpenter, end he ended up pissing off the wrong people and got his arse nailed to a cross as a result. Threehundred years later, some clever novelist decided to write a book about him, and it became the best selling fantasy novel of all time, long before Tolkien ever dreamed up his first Hobbit.
All that, and not a single swear word. U mad?
amen
Best. Summary. EVAR!
I think it was a Roman guard, not the carpenter who fathered it.
This is what the Romans have done for us.
I tend to follow a similar thought, except I think he saw something wrong with how the jews treated the uncool kids (y’know, lepers, women during their periods, pigs, the Gentiles) and thought he should hang out with them and get to know them. This pissed off the Establishment who nailed him to a cross to make an example of him – however it backfired and it made him a martyr instead, leading to the best-selling novel.
TL;DR version, Jesus was the world’s first hippie, hanging out with the uncool kids and stickin’ it to the man.
There is no bigger obnoxious a**hole then the atheist. I don’t doubt the fact that you exist, although i am sure many people pretend you don’t. A troll is a troll, you sir, are trolling. Christianity at it’s heart, is a religion of peace and tolerance…don’t blame the entire religion for a small percentage of fundamentalists. However, you have a completely polarized view of religion: you are either an athiest or an idiot. In reality, one of us is delusional. Leave Christians with their delusions and i’ll leave you with yours.
lol. Peace and tolerance, huh? Tell that to Hypatia.
You are completely correct that one of you is delusional. Very astute of you to mention that the religion you follow is a religion of ‘peace and tolerance’ when you just called someone an obnoxious a**hole. Well done Christian, well done you should be very proud of negating your own point
You’re right!
Being peaceful and tolerant means you can never, ever call anyone an a##hole. Ever.
Just out of curiosity, does this rule work on atheists? Because I’ve seen some of them call people a##holes.
Being peaceful and tolerant generally means your first sentence to someone you don’t know isn’t calling an entire group of people obnoxious a**holes, yes. And then complaining that you are being marginalized not five seconds after putting down an entire group of people.
Christians are cool. Atheists are cool. It’s the militants that need to STFU.
THANK YOU.
Jesus Christ! (See what I did there?!)
Bingo! Stop using your religious preference as an excuse to wave some “I’m better than you banner” because you just look like a tool (this goes for ALL religions/sports teams/political teams/etc. etc. etc.).
Peace and tolerance? Sure as long as you believe how i believe pray how pray aren’t gay, and give me money. Christianity was a way of controlling and forcing a government beliefs on a people they felt were less then human. More people and cultures have been lost to “our” god then anything else.
Christianity, is, at its heart, based on lies. Lies, and more lies (just like any religion that states a deity exists).
Overused soundbite is overused.
Peace and Tolerance? That’s good for a laugh. If you were not aware, the instruction manual for your chosen form of shared dementia says it’s perfectly acceptable to publicly execute someone without a trial for any number of reasons, such as being homosexual, or being a foreigner, or following a different brand of your religion, or being your wife.
Christians are among some of the most intolerant people I can think of. At least Muslims acknowledge that Jesus Christ existed. They don’t put him on as high of a pedestal as Christians, but most Christians don’t even know who Mohammed was.
I’m not the most religious person, but I have a hard time believing your generalization. Most people I know are Christian, or at the very least, some sort of Deist. I don’t know what kind of rock you live under where “most” Christians still believe that homosexuals, foreigners, followers of other religions, and wives deserve to be executed, nor do they not know who Mohammed was.
If I didn’t know any better, I’d think you were pulling that “most” out of your ass, unless you were raised surrounded by atheists and surrounded by so few Christians that you’re founding your “anecdotal evidence” only on the ones you’ve met, or you live in a paranoid plastic bubble.
Or, you could be exaggerating because you know that your argument is just as bigoted and self-righteous as the bible-thumper at your door at five in the morning.
If most christians aren’t bigoted against homosexuals, then why is gay marriage even an issue in this day and age?
Here’s a pretty good example of where we get the “most” from–your worst members like to be very vocal about their hate: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/unreasonablefaith/2012/01/when-people-ask-why-i-have-a-problem-with-religion/
You think only Christians aren’t bigoted against homosexuals?
And the fundamentalists and extremists don’t represent an entire group of people. I thought we might have cleared that one up but clearly I was expecting too much.
What’s funny is how you’re trying to wax all progressive but, with your logic, you’re really no different than the paranoid right wing fruitcakes who believe that all Moslems are terrorists, despite how hard you try to come across as the complete opposites.
Extreme Christians and extreme atheists hate each other because they’re both the same and don’t even realize it.
You chose to share a religion with them, enjoy the consequences.Now there’s no way to dissassociate yourself from them, they are YOUR people.
Not being very tolerant towards seal.
But isn’t that the point – that Christians are NOT leaving us alone? Reaction to YET ANOTHER in an infinite list of demands by Christians to bend ourselves to their belief system is not being an obnoxious atheist, it’s simply being fed up.
Hey, man. I’m an Atheist. I’ve done nothing to harm you, nor am I being disrespectful. If someone’s being a gorilla, don’t blame them because of the religion. Isn’t that against Christianity? Judgment? I’m a nice guy, I just can’t bring myself to imagine something like Christianity. Therefore, I chose Atheism. It doesn’t mean I don’t like you, God, or anyone else. It’s simply my belief. You believe in God? That’s okay with me. Most- ALL of my friends are Christian. Listen, man, don’t call US idiots. Call HIM an idiot for insulting you. Please try to understand that not all Atheists are pricks. Thanks.
You can’t chose to be an atheist, just saying.
Seal64, you have so many “facts” wrong its laughable. I suggest that you go back to the drawing board and try again….. In the mean time, I will be praying for you.
A beliver
“A beliver”
I think you misspelled “gullible fool”.
Hello Joe.
Based on lauren’s standards posted above, I hereby declare atheism intolerant and hateful. Have a nice day.
Yes, that’s because you’re foolish.
See, if you were at least a little bit intelligent, slightly rational, and somewhat educated, you would realize that the standards which apply to a belief system CAN NOT be applied to a simple yes/no answer on a single subject. As an added bonus, you would also be far more likely to reject the absurdity of religion. Alas, you did not win the genetic lottery – a problem which has been further exacerbated by the failings of your parents, friends, and teachers.
Thanks for your concern, though, Ryan. I hope you have a swell day.
What are you trying to prove, exactly? I’m wondering, because what you’re succeeding in proving is that militant atheists are the exact same type of smug, officious, high-horse-riding blabbermouths they put so much effort into actively hating. It would be funny if it wasn’t so obnoxious.
You use the word “militant” as i it were derogatory. You appear to be confused. The problem with theists isn’t that they’re “militant” or “smug”, “officious” or “high-horse riding blabbermouths”. They certainly ARE those things, but that, in and of itself is not a problem. No, the issue here is that they’re gullible, superstitious fools, whose idiotic “faiths” are a throwback to a time when our species was in it’s infancy. The issue at hand is that their primitive beliefs cause incalculable harm to the human race as a whole. If they wanted to be smug militant a**holes while pushing measures which are actually BENEFICIAL, we wouldn’t have a problem.
Of course, you understand this. I know that you do. You’re just trying to act like a quasi-intellectual moral relativist, because it makes you feel superior to the “squabbling rabble”. However, we can expose the hypocrisy of your “position” with a simple though experiment. Imagine, for a minute, that we had a group of people who insisted that President Bush was a god. Imagine they spent inordinate amounts of time obsessing over What Bush Would Do, and, any time they hit a snag in their lives, they prayed to Bush to rescue them. Imagine they taught their children that anyone who doesn’t believe in the Divinity of Bush is an Evil person, who will be tortured for all of eternity in Guantanamo Bay. Imagine they refused to vote for anyone who wasn’t Bush, or at least didn’t share the same belief. Imagine they insisted that schools teach that Bush created the entire universe 6,000 years ago, and that anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar. Imagine that they repeatedly and illegally went on to teach those things in public schools, even after being defeated in courts dozens of times. Imagine that, even after Bush dies, these people would continue to insist that future presidents base their policy decisions on the guidance of Bush.
Now imagine that there’s a handful of people standing here in slack-jawed bewilderment, occasionally yelling “NO!! YOU RETARDS FULL OF S**T!!!”.
Would you be as quick to accuse the latter group of being militant? Would you try to draw comparisons between them? I think not.
Glad we could clear that up! With any luck, you’ll eventually outgrow your moral-relativism stage. Cheers!
Intolerant? Check.
Hateful? Check.
Thank you for proving my point so ably.
By the way, your “I’m not hateful because I’M RIGHT!!!111eleven!” excuse doesn’t wash. In case you haven’t noticed, most people on this planet believe they are right. Does that mean they are all immune from charges of hatefulness? Of course not.
I didn’t say anything about hatefulness, twit. If you want to fight strawmen, go do it in your church.
Good thing I reed your comment. I was about to post the same kind of argument. My analogy would have been with a group worshiping fairies but Bush is even funnier because we know he would be a retarded god (He’s not even good at being human, I couldn’t imagine how bad of a god he would do). Go for it Joe. They might understand one day.
Based on my belief in my magical invisible space friend who has existed before time, I hereby declare Ryan Waxx to be a delusional idiot and possibly a eunuch. Have a nice day.
Hey, if you say “invisible friend” enough, it’ll make you sound clever and original. Not.
Negative five thousand points for creativity.
I’m not even agreeing with the person who started all of this, but just as shrill as they are is that you trying to be smarter than everyone else by borrowing everyone else’s words from them.
See, everyone? The hivemind: It’s not just for Christians anymore!
I said invisible friend only once, and you somehow believe I said it repeatedly in an attempt to sound witty. Tell me, how do paint chips taste? I’ve always been curious.
And since we don’t have an edit button, if I was trying to be smart I would have decimated that run-on garbage you threw up on the screen instead of implying that someone doesn’t have testicles.
Sanguinivore: Too bad that rant didn’t make that invisible magical space friend wink into existence.
errr…no. Religions don’t have ‘facts’. That’s why they’re generally referred to as ‘faiths’.
There is no proof anything in the Bible actually happened, therefore there can be no ‘facts’, only faith and belief.
The Bible is pretty much a long fantasy novel that people took too seriously imo, but that’s me.
- An athiest.
I believe the opposite to be true. Faith is knowing something is true for sure despite other people claiming it is false. It is not something you feel to be right because it feels good, it is something you know deep inside, but not everyone can be convinced. This is not only true for religious faith.
The bible is absolutely not a fantasy novel. It is a history book with many proven events. I can understand that you don’t believe in miracles, but don’t call the bible a fantasy novel.
The bible is a fantasy novel, and the willingness of idiots to have faith is a massive problem. People don’t “just know” stuff. If we did, we wouldn’t need science. When you tell me that you “just know” something, what you’re really telling me is that you’re a stubborn jacka** who is unwilling to learn, unwilling to reason, and unwilling to look at evidence. You’ve made up your mind, and no amount of evidence will ever change it. You are, in short, a fool, and should be treated as a borderline mental-case by anyone who isn’t similarly afflicted.
Of course, theists aren’t the only one with this problem – the same goes for believers in “alternative medicine”, “psychics”, “alien abduction”, conspiracy theories, and all kinds of superstitions. Most of them won’t actually come out and SAY that they “have faith”, but you can easily tell which ones are True Believers after a short discussion. I don’t really care what kind of ridiculous nonsense you decide to have faith in, because faith itself is the root problem.
Why do you misquote me? I never said “just know”.
I really like science(im studying for electrical engineer and i am a embedded programmer). I am also fond of reasoning.
Your faith in that the bible is “a fantasy novel” seems strong. I could use the exact arguments you just made to defend my point of view.
And the difference between “know deep inside” and “just know” is …. ?
Tell me, as someone who is “studying for electrical engineer” (and apparently failing English) – if someone came to you and said “I know deep inside that electricity can’t really hurt me”, what would your response be? “Oh, ok. As long as you know deep inside you must be right!”?
Ok, you say you can be rational, so show me. If a Christian and a Muslim both “know deep inside” that theirs is the one true religion, how do you reconcile that?
Start using your head instead of your “gut”. You’ll get much farther in life. And, as an engineer, you’ll be less likely to get people killed. I want my engineers THINKING, not praying.
Sorry for my bad english. I’m dutch and do not write that well in english.
A gut is not capable of though. So why bring it up?
If someone thinks electricity can’t hurt him it is probably ignorance or a logical error, not because someone knows it for sure. With knowing deep inside i mean that it is not a though, but more like how you make sense of the world around you. Just like maths and the laws of nature. Some things just make sense, but not everyone has a clear view of it. So quite the opposite of a feeling or a simple thought.
I never said that all faiths are right. That’s just a stupid politically correct point of view.
Ah, hell, I’m sorry. Your English is excellent for someone who lives in a non-English-speaking nation. Unfortunately it clearly IS a slight barrier to us understanding each other. From my perspective you seem to be contradicting yourself all over the place, but I can’t tell if that’s a language issue, or faulty reasoning. If we were having this discussion through e-mail, I would keep trying to narrow down that uncertainty, and would include more detail in what I wrote to you, but this isn’t the right place to have that kind of conversation.
Agreed. Let’s stop this discussion.
You’re right, beliver82. The fact is: There’s no proof whatsover that Jesus existed at all. In ANY form.
Actually, I believe they have found records (not biblical, but I can’t remember exactly what the records were in reference to) that prove that there was in fact a Jesus of Nazareth. Whether he was or was not the embodiment of God on earth, is immaterial XD
Woohoo! I bet he was smelly too.
Not to mention he was technically responsible for the crusades. Problem?
Wow, so many errors in so few sentences. I assume you are a troll or worse have read the davinci code. You could of course be ignorant of basic facts, but i assume that you did some research before telling everyone your story.
Your argument about “Jesus Christ” not being a swear word is laughable.
First you call Jesus of Nazareth fictional, then you bash him. You can’t say both. Your having your cake and eating it too.
Second you say there are millions of Jesuses but only one Jesus called “Jesus Christ”. That means that it IS a swear word. Your conclusion doesn’t fit your argument(non sequitur) .
Darth Vader is fictional, but he’s still a d*ck.
I always love it when theists insist on proving just how illogical they really are.
Nobody believes Darth Vader is real. And I think Darth Vader is awesome.
“Nobody believes Darth Vader is real.”
Right. That would be stupid. But a magical Jew born of a virgin who turned water into wine and raised an army of zombies? Totally real.
Darth Vader was and always will be a completely fictional character. Jesus did exist. Whether or not you believe the things that are written about him is besides the point.
If I said that I have proof that Darth Vader was actually a woman I would be lying, because there is no way to have a source for that, because that character exists only in a fictional world, not in the real world.
If you claim facts about a real person, you can, but you better point out the source.
If you say a person is fictional you can’t claim facts about that person. And if you don’t point out the source your story won’t make any sense.
Of course he’s a d*ck. Just look at that hat he wears.
First you call Bella and Edward fictional, then you bash them. You can’t say both. You’re having your cake and eating it too.
Second you say there are millions of Bellas and Edwards but only one Bella and Edward called “Twilight”. That means that it IS a swear word. Your conclusion doesn’t fit your argument(non sequitur) .
Since when did Twilight became a religion?
Let me explain my argument in a way you can understand.
The person I responded to claimed that Jesus was fictional, but he also claimed he was real and bashed him by spreading lies about him.
Nobody believes Twilight is real and nobody prays to Bella and Edward, and nobody who dislikes Twilight says that Bella and Edward live in Scotland and have two million flying dwarf kids.
So a character is either fictional and you like or dislike that character for what is said about that character, or the character is real and you like or dislike that character and you can use alternative sources to claim facts about that person. You can not have both. And if you use source you should refer to them.
Dude. Legend.
Best part is his name wasn’t “Jesus” at all. It was Joshua.
^ This
Totally unnecessary.
Because people outside your collective have to treat with respect all of your words and symbols when the respect you provide to outsiders in return is to threaten eternal torture.
Jesus fukcing christ man!
First off, people don’t threaten it. God does. Not a lot that can be done to change that.
Secondly, why should God’s name, or the name of his son, be used as a curse word? That’s pretty stupid in and of itself.
Actually, you willfully choose to believe in a system who’s narrative threatens torment to anyone different than your own kind. You could have chosen a non-hostile belief system like buddhism or none at all, but you decided you like the one that lets you be institutionally aggressive towards outsiders whilst scapegoating your deity for your hate.
As for using a name that holds no meaning whatsoever to me as a curse, well I’m sure you’d have no qualms against saying my name as a curse. It might sound silly to anyone who heard it because it doesn’t carry the years of usage as an expletive that jesus fukcing christ does, but whatever floats your boat.
To be fair, most of them don’t choose their belief system – they’re indoctrinated into it as children. You can’t hold them responsible for the brainwashing they underwent – only for their continued refusal to reexamine what they’ve been told.
Very true, children can’t be held responsible for the lack of critical thinking that puts them into this position. An adult bears the responsibility of using their judgment to stick with or change their position.
A subtle but very important distinction.
Sometimes you get lucky though, like I did when I was young, and get yourself out of said religion while you’re young (though that’s probably a lot more difficult with ultra-religious families and the like). I just wish I’d held onto that wisdom as I grew older XD
Ive got no problem with God or Jesus, Its there fans that piss me off!
I’ve got no problem with atheism, it’s the supporters that piss me off!
Dude you got something wrong there. It’s ‘Lord Voldemort’ whose name you should be afraid of. Jesus Christ was just that hippie that probably didn’t even exist two thousand years ago.
There’s no place for religion on the internet. Leave ‘your’ got at the keyboard.
That only depends on the religion for who your higher power might be. He didn’t badmouth the flying spaghetti monster, so his followers probably were’nt offended.
Snowwhite, what the hell! <- same thing
You’re right mm. There is no such thing as a “Swear Word” in the first place, since you want to be technical about things.
The Bible prohibits you from cursing, it doesn’t matter WHAT word you use. If you use it as a curse you’re violating your own rules. So if I say “Holy Snot!” that’s just as much of a Curse as saying “Holy S***!”
If you are frustrated and utter the word “Christ!” then yes it’s a curse, you just made it one. If you say “bollox” or “drat” or “gosh darn it” it’s NO different.
But we already knew you were a sinner who can’t ever do things right. The Bible told me so.
This is totally me
I feel this way about all children, not just babies.
^this
^^this.
^^^this.
Yup, pretty much
Oh hells yes.
Who made this? I want to be friends
I always say that it’s not that I hate kids, I just hate other people’s kids.
Yeeeeeeeeesssss. This is exactly what I tell people.
YES! My kids are fine and adorable, other peoples kids are hideous monsters!
Just for the recored whoever made this is a good artist, (at least a comic/manga/whatever artist)
no he’s not. adults, yes, but that “cute” infant looks creepy too.
The comic artist is a woman. And yes, she is quite talented.
http://chaoslife.findchaos.com/
^^ This was the only thing I was looking for when I clicked on this travesty of a comments thread !^_^!
I love the way i’m listening to songs about killing the unborn right now.
+1 internets…
…payable in approximately 9 months.
Green Hell?
Wellllll, I got something to say…..
Source: http://chaoslife.findchaos.com/?p=237
Did anyone else read the 3rd panel in Tobuscus’s voice?
Tobasco?
Yeah, the big furry guy in Star Wars.
THIS is what you decide to fixate on? Really?
MY NAME IS MICHEAL J CABOOSE AND I HATE BABIES!
KILL IT WITH FIRE.
Anyone contemplating starting a family should watch Bill Cosby “Himself” first. It is the most realistic parenting DVD out there.
[in the hospital room after the birth of their first baby]” … and I looked at it… and it wasn’t getting any better. So I went over to my wife, and kissed her ever so gently on the lips, and I said “I love you, very very much dear. You just… had… a lizard.” I mean, because the thing changed colors like, five times! And I said to the doctor, “Can you put this back? Cause it isn’t finished cooking! It needs to cook two, three months!” But the hospital made us take it home.”
This is some fresh, new material. Can’t wait to hear this guy’s take on airplane peanuts.
Came here to see what people were saying about the cartoon. So far, 25 comments about babies/children/the cartoon. 33 comments about religion. Hmmmm….
I love the little things that can spark a religious war. Apparently being secure in your faith means you go on paragraph-long tangents because someone dared to say “Jesus Christ”.
No, it’s because he’s a Troll.
And because most Christians have trouble understanding that their Manual says to not Curse, it doesn’t say not to use “naughty words” or “foul language”.
Any word is a Curse if used as one. Saying “freak” or “frack” or “gosh darn it all to heck” is 100% as much of a curse as using the “naughty” words they are trying to avoid.
I see them that way too. The one nice thing about being in my 30s is that when I was like 20 and said I never want to have kids, everyone lold and said ‘oh you’ll be singing a different tune when you’re older.’ Now when I still say the same thing at least they believe me.
THANK YOU! I’m in my 20′s now, and I almost feel pressured into having children by my family and even some of my friends. I am in no way interested in having a child, and being around them just makes me feel awkward and uncomfortable.
thanks, but that’s the thing though. When you get a little older there is a lot more pressure around you to get married and have kids, and it’s a lot harder to say you don’t want to at that point. A lot of people don’t really expect you to be married or have kids at 20, but they start expecting it of you when you’re 25 or so and you see all your friends doing it. Thankfully I was lucky in that my family never pressured me to do that, and that’s probably a large part of why I still don’t want to. But at least now at my age they actually believe that I was serious about it.
^This
Yep, this pretty much. Brace yourself, the world will be at your reproductive will soon enough:
Me, at 19: “Babies aren’t cute. They’re loud, NASTY and obnoxious. They tie you down and restrain your life. I will adopt a semi-grown child if I ever elect to care for a child.”
World, in response: “Ohhhhhhh you’ll hear the clock ticking by the time you’re almost 27 and you’ll want a baaaaaybeeeeee!”
Me, NOW, at 32: “Babies aren’t cute. They’re loud, NASTY and obnoxious. They tie you down and restrain your life. I will adopt a semi-grown child if I ever elect to care for a child.”
World: “YOU’RE A CREEPY SELFISH MONSTER! HOW COULD YOU NOT WANT TO BE COVERED IN INFANT FECES AND MILK VOMIT?! THE WORLD NEEDS MORE BAAAYBEEEEEES!”
I don’t like people very much anymore.
oh, there’s a special place in my heart for people who tell you you are somehow “selfish” for not wanting to have a kid. If anything, you would be selfish to *want* to have a kid, because no matter how you look at it you are having it because *you* want to, not because the kid wanted to. Having a kid when you have no desire to have one results in exactly the kind of parent a kid would not want or need, and calling a parent “selfish” when they’re actually responsible enough not to have a kid out of pressure or obligation is the worst kind of nerve.
YES! I have to hear about how all my cousins had five kids each by the time they were my age. It says more about how my cousins can’t keep their legs closed than how much of a weirdo I am.
I guess the world will have to struggle by on the 7 billion people it has, since I’m not adding any more.
WHY THE “HELL” IS ALL OF THIS ABOUT RELIGION. “GOD DAMN IT”.
I know, right?
Holy f*ck and Jesus f*cking Christ!
See, I’m not generally too fond of babies either, but it really depends on the sauce…
Oh please!
Why are ALL girls supposed to love babies????
I am a girl, never liked babies, never want to have, and so fed up people told me ‘I ‘ll change my mind’!
Because u like DlCK, and that leads to babies.
What if she doesn’t like it? That’s possible, you know. (Even if the other kids tell you otherwise during recess.)
Guys get it too, trust me.
And hang onto the annoying idiots chiming in with their “You’ll want a baaaaybeee!” garbage for now, because when you’re twice your age and still saying the exact same thing, they’ll start calling you a callous, selfish demon for not wanting to live like Michelle Duggar.
Freakin’ love babies. My best friend hates them. Kinda funny.
i hate babies and support 3rd trimester abortions performed by a catholic priest
Out of curiosity, how does the performance of a third trimester abortion differ when it’s done by a priest as opposed to a trained professional?
If a priest does it, the head starts spinning around and then it starts projectile vomiting something that resembles Pea Soup.
What?
YES EXACTLY BABIES ARE GROSS AND LOUD AND WEIRD.
Caps key broken?
Nah, it WORKS JUST GREAT!
Who drew the pictures? They’re really good.
I don’t know, but if you look at the picture, the copyright notice, and the URL printed on it (NOT the fail-whatever one which was added) I’ll bet you would find out.
honestly, some babies…
I FEEL YOUR PAIN
Good post, Love it. Keep it up. I appreciate it.
Repetitive post. Hate it. Name links to spam. I don’t appreciate it.
I am terrified of babies, I’d rather be buried alive in tarantulas than have to take care of one
Luckily I’m gay
This is not a fail, therefore it doesn’t belong to failblog. Please stop posting this CRAP.
For something that “doesn’t exist”, atheists sure love wasting energy fighting against it and the people who are “wrong”, simply because their opinions are different.. When someone says they’re atheists, I’ve never used that as an excuse to start an argument trying to prove that person is wrong. that’s not my job.
I just go “Cool story bro”, and move along. Which is something atheists absolutely cannot resist. As soon as anything religious is mentioned, they start with the name calling, and go on and on about how stupid a person can be for believing something they can’t see, because missing limbs don’t grow back.
Um… it was the fundy twatwaffle that started the religious bulls**t, not the atheists. And if you think missing limbs are the strongest argument against a sky pixie… whewwwww…
Is the aspartam of these words? Welcome the holy union of invertible offensives! This will be the way of the berries, berries. Via equus homini mundi. Modus potentia veni.
Congratulations people, you have made a Darwin declaration. Leave the child rearing to those who know what they’re doing: The Octomom and the Duggars… (/sarc)
How the f*cking hell did a joke about how disgracefully disgusting babies are turn into a religious debate???
P.S
No floating mystical biens of ANY sort are real. Seriously people, you guys sound like a bunch of little kid debating “Santa.”
But Honestly, I have nothing against idiots who believe in something that is entirely impossible and just plain lack every form of common sense possible. You people just take a bit longer to grow up, then maybe you’ll realize we are just overgrown bastardly monkey creatures with too much free time.
come on dude Santa is real!!!!!
Yes Santa works in mysterious way, through channels like our parents but he is real. If you are real good you might get an actual gift from him but for less than perfects like us Santa send us gift through spiritual powers influencing our parents.
trust me my dad knows.
Is it bad when I saw the girl in the comic I was like “dayum shes hot”
Well…. She is…. >.>
it looks like a gatherer from amnesia!!! Q_Q