It means that this teacher would rather be a grand wordsmith than to properly compliment, then critique, then compliment again and thus to actually be a good teacher. If you can’t teach an alien to do it then you don’t understand it at all. Good job trying though, to this teacher.
With the proper will, we can get better at anything, including negotiating with what seems to be a dominatrix elitest snob.
As for the knocking the Teacher..well lets just say that after a certain point in your education if you can’t produce a product of at least a minimum quality its a sign more of disrespect rather than inability.
In my engineering classes you would see work of exceptionally poor caliber which typically showed a complete lack of comprehension or attention.
Especially with regard to large papers, by the time you submit you have had the chance to have teaching staff review it. Usually if you haven’t you have resigned yourself to producing a shoddy product.
The teacher could have responded by saying, “how do you think that you did on the research paper?”
Just because some people don’t care doesn’t mean that everyone with poor marks on some scale isn’t struggling to survive IRL and could use some godamn respect. That goes for terrorists, communists, devils and even you, whoever you are.
In that case, the person has maxed out their educational opportunities and should be seeking employment. If you’re struggling with the material, it is time to move on.
This isn’t the feedback on the paper; this is someone getting a bad grade, and as if for the first time, it occurred to them they didn’t know how they did on the paper. For all we know the teacher did a wonderful balancing act in the paper feedback. But that’s not this.
What this is, is funny. Which you might have missed.
I actually know the professor who wrote it. It was just a rant on his facebook.after someone turned in a poorly crafted final paper in his history class (at an elite school also). He’s a good guy, so the paper had to be a mess to warrant this kind of response.
You are correct and I read terrible writing daily. I am constantly amazed by it. I would never write this on a student’s paper, although I would give anything to be able to do so just once in my life. This is funny. Those who fail to see the humor in it are a pitiful lot in my opinion. Those would become exercised enough to write a rant in response here of all places must have been the recipients of such criticism at one time or another.
Almost anyone who claims to be “forced to read terrible writing on a regular basis” is actually someone who is paid to read terrible writing on a regular basis. Cry me a river, academics. You knew what you were getting into, or you should have known.
So teachers should never give negative feedback when inadequate work is done? LOL – as someone who is not in academia, I’m sure you’d LOVE the resulting workers!
I have no idea what you just said. It has no contextual relevance and, even when its obvious grammatical errors are set aside, it still makes no sense. Please, don’t post when you are drunk.
Yes it does. People here are complaining that the teacher knew what they were getting into in their profession, and thus means they have no right to complain. Which could be said of any job. Anybody here who hasn’t complained about there job is lying.
It’s getting worse every year. A friend of mine is an English professor and has told me stories that weren’t even possible 20 years ago. Students are submitting papers with text-style abbreviations and grammar for instance.
It seems like the English language is on a steady, downward slide to simplicity and idiocy. I haven’t found anything written over a hundred years ago that compares to what college professors are currently forced to read.
This sounds like someone who is bitter that they have to work 11.5 months out of the year… It is you, sir, who should cry me a river, as I think I will like the taste of your tears.
Entering a career in academics decades ago could never have prepared anyone for the level of illegibility to which papers have sunk in these past few years.
Plus (assuming this is not fake) people should be allowed a little vent every so often. That professor probably does not write that sort of thing all the time.
Aaand that made me laugh. Sorry. I like dry, British-like humour.
The people who fault academics for this kind of response don’t realise that this level of polemic is reserved for the worst of the worst. To say that papers have sunk to new lows in readability is an understatement. Full sentences are sometimes too much to ask for. What we get is word salad. All that said…the overwhelming majority of the papers submitted to me are quite good, some phenomenal, and some not so good. Few fall into the category of “incoherent.” But the few are out there, and they don’t represent a failure on the part of the instructor grading them. That battle was lost ages ago.
Yep this pretty much sums it up. I’ve been teaching for a number of years and in just the last 5 years or so the work from most of my students has taken a huge downhill turn. I get papers copied from Wikipedia or other sources, bad summaries instead of analysis, poor grammar and spelling (some of which could have been remedied by using spellcheck), and the list goes on and on. A lot of students don’t even TRY these days. They just expect to turn in half-assed work and get an A anyway.
And as a teacher, I found this really amusing because thoughts like these have no doubt run through MANY of our heads while grading papers or getting those “why didn’t I do well” questions from students.
I was going to ask if this student is at Hogwarts, talking about dry British humour, this is something I could imagine Snape writing. Though – I’m thinking he would have insulted the student’s parents (dead or living) along the way too.
At least it wasn’t plagiarized. I have a friend who teaches English 101-equivalent courses and she regularly has to treat students to the ‘what happens to you when you try to copy stuff other people wrote when you are in college and under an honor code and other scrutiny.”
The teacher in this case has similar speech patterns to my high school English teacher. Right down to the snark. I applaud this teacher. We need more like them.
I found it quite amusing, if however unlikely. I’ve had instructors use this form of language in the past, myself. roflcoptorlolzftw! Beautifully done!
I just finished grading research papers. They ran the whole gamut from really poorly done to excellent. One young person even told me he “knows all the stuff, so I don’t have to cite it.” On the other hand, one student did historical literature review on his topic, and then shadowed a manager at a worksite and did an ethnographic paper on his topic. And yes, I teach at the university level, hopefully preparing young professionals for their chosen field (STEM degrees). I have yet to see a professional job description that doesn’t call for excellent oral and written communication skills.
….Does that mean you’re open to negotiation?
It means that this teacher would rather be a grand wordsmith than to properly compliment, then critique, then compliment again and thus to actually be a good teacher. If you can’t teach an alien to do it then you don’t understand it at all. Good job trying though, to this teacher.
With the proper will, we can get better at anything, including negotiating with what seems to be a dominatrix elitest snob.
Oh, okay. I just thought that negotiating is what you’re supposed to do in a hostage situation.
I liked your joke about negotiation.
As for the knocking the Teacher..well lets just say that after a certain point in your education if you can’t produce a product of at least a minimum quality its a sign more of disrespect rather than inability.
In my engineering classes you would see work of exceptionally poor caliber which typically showed a complete lack of comprehension or attention.
Especially with regard to large papers, by the time you submit you have had the chance to have teaching staff review it. Usually if you haven’t you have resigned yourself to producing a shoddy product.
The teacher could have responded by saying, “how do you think that you did on the research paper?”
Just because some people don’t care doesn’t mean that everyone with poor marks on some scale isn’t struggling to survive IRL and could use some godamn respect. That goes for terrorists, communists, devils and even you, whoever you are.
The teacher probably didn’t send this reply to the student. Likely it was something written to rant on FB. I’ve written many fake replies to students.
And also, we usually know who are the students who are struggling and who are the ones who don’t care. It becomes obvious pretty quickly.
In that case, the person has maxed out their educational opportunities and should be seeking employment. If you’re struggling with the material, it is time to move on.
This isn’t the feedback on the paper; this is someone getting a bad grade, and as if for the first time, it occurred to them they didn’t know how they did on the paper. For all we know the teacher did a wonderful balancing act in the paper feedback. But that’s not this.
What this is, is funny. Which you might have missed.
Probably the unfunniest, most unbelievable thing I have ever read on here. The fact that it’s totally out of context just tops it off.
+1
Yeah, I’m sure the original poster thought it was clever though. It looked like a contrived mess of intellectual posturing to me.
I actually know the professor who wrote it. It was just a rant on his facebook.after someone turned in a poorly crafted final paper in his history class (at an elite school also). He’s a good guy, so the paper had to be a mess to warrant this kind of response.
‘If fact’
+1 for the wordy-wordsmith fail
Wow. They aren’t even trying to fake the posts anymore, they just put it all on one update.
The three people above me have no souls.
courtesy of 9GAG
yes, the Johnson family on the 8th floor are real arseholes indeed
I guess this is easier to appreciate if you’re someone who is forced to read terrible writing on a regular basis.
Absolutely!
You are correct and I read terrible writing daily. I am constantly amazed by it. I would never write this on a student’s paper, although I would give anything to be able to do so just once in my life. This is funny. Those who fail to see the humor in it are a pitiful lot in my opinion. Those would become exercised enough to write a rant in response here of all places must have been the recipients of such criticism at one time or another.
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul
Almost anyone who claims to be “forced to read terrible writing on a regular basis” is actually someone who is paid to read terrible writing on a regular basis. Cry me a river, academics. You knew what you were getting into, or you should have known.
My own thoughts exactly.
So teachers should never give negative feedback when inadequate work is done? LOL – as someone who is not in academia, I’m sure you’d LOVE the resulting workers!
TIL that only people who don’t work in academia are allowed to complain about what they do.
I have no idea what you just said. It has no contextual relevance and, even when its obvious grammatical errors are set aside, it still makes no sense. Please, don’t post when you are drunk.
Yes it does. People here are complaining that the teacher knew what they were getting into in their profession, and thus means they have no right to complain. Which could be said of any job. Anybody here who hasn’t complained about there job is lying.
Their*, shoot me.
It’s getting worse every year. A friend of mine is an English professor and has told me stories that weren’t even possible 20 years ago. Students are submitting papers with text-style abbreviations and grammar for instance.
It seems like the English language is on a steady, downward slide to simplicity and idiocy. I haven’t found anything written over a hundred years ago that compares to what college professors are currently forced to read.
This sounds like someone who is bitter that they have to work 11.5 months out of the year… It is you, sir, who should cry me a river, as I think I will like the taste of your tears.
Ofcourse ppl know what they are getting into, that doesn’t mean they won’t comment on it.
I think that this teacher is till just a HAIR bitter he had to gie up his literary career for a teaching position…
Entering a career in academics decades ago could never have prepared anyone for the level of illegibility to which papers have sunk in these past few years.
Plus (assuming this is not fake) people should be allowed a little vent every so often. That professor probably does not write that sort of thing all the time.
Aaand that made me laugh. Sorry. I like dry, British-like humour.
The people who fault academics for this kind of response don’t realise that this level of polemic is reserved for the worst of the worst. To say that papers have sunk to new lows in readability is an understatement. Full sentences are sometimes too much to ask for. What we get is word salad. All that said…the overwhelming majority of the papers submitted to me are quite good, some phenomenal, and some not so good. Few fall into the category of “incoherent.” But the few are out there, and they don’t represent a failure on the part of the instructor grading them. That battle was lost ages ago.
Yep this pretty much sums it up. I’ve been teaching for a number of years and in just the last 5 years or so the work from most of my students has taken a huge downhill turn. I get papers copied from Wikipedia or other sources, bad summaries instead of analysis, poor grammar and spelling (some of which could have been remedied by using spellcheck), and the list goes on and on. A lot of students don’t even TRY these days. They just expect to turn in half-assed work and get an A anyway.
And as a teacher, I found this really amusing because thoughts like these have no doubt run through MANY of our heads while grading papers or getting those “why didn’t I do well” questions from students.
I was going to ask if this student is at Hogwarts, talking about dry British humour, this is something I could imagine Snape writing. Though – I’m thinking he would have insulted the student’s parents (dead or living) along the way too.
At least it wasn’t plagiarized. I have a friend who teaches English 101-equivalent courses and she regularly has to treat students to the ‘what happens to you when you try to copy stuff other people wrote when you are in college and under an honor code and other scrutiny.”
The teacher in this case has similar speech patterns to my high school English teacher. Right down to the snark. I applaud this teacher. We need more like them.
He/she is like the Dr. Cox of academia. Don’t worry unnamed student, someday he/she will give you that hug you so desire.
when i read comrade comment i loled that pretty much summed it up for me.It was like something Ben Lewis would say in accepted
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Is there like no moderation here whatsoever huh?
I found it quite amusing, if however unlikely. I’ve had instructors use this form of language in the past, myself. roflcoptorlolzftw! Beautifully done!
the car this crazy and he is ghost
I just finished grading research papers. They ran the whole gamut from really poorly done to excellent. One young person even told me he “knows all the stuff, so I don’t have to cite it.” On the other hand, one student did historical literature review on his topic, and then shadowed a manager at a worksite and did an ethnographic paper on his topic. And yes, I teach at the university level, hopefully preparing young professionals for their chosen field (STEM degrees). I have yet to see a professional job description that doesn’t call for excellent oral and written communication skills.