..lowercase baby jesus must’ve removed the noose beforehand (it’s a Christmas miracle–!)..& i don’t think lcb jesus removed it from the klan-snowman’s neck..
There wasn’t a noose on it anymore at the time this video was filmed – the man who made the offending snowman tries to deny there ever was a noose but the reporter says the neighbors had pictures and the neighbor they spoke to at the beginning of the video said there was a noose on it. But I expect since it’s supposed to be a Klansman and the creator of the snowman is a “self-described white separatist” w/a Confederate flag that he’s pro-KKK and that the snowman wasn’t wearing the noose but holding it. It looks like it’s holding a bayonet or other type of knife or sword now
The guy’s caption read “self described white separatist”. While I doubt he could spell “separatist”, I think he knew very well why the news crew was there.
the Confederate flag doesn’t represent the sole ideal of slavery…
It represents a time of prosperity the American South that will never be experienced again (American south had the 4th largest economy in the world in the 17th century)
The flag was created before the Emancipation Proclamation, which turned the Civil War into a fight over slavery years after they have been fighting over restoring the Union. This was unpopular even in the North, because whites didn’t want to compete with freed slaves on a economic level. This was also a ploy by Lincoln to eliminate the idea of having France or England joining the war on the side of the south called “King Cotton”. The Confederate flag represents so much more, the rich heritage of a once thriving south, who were merely one of several other countries who had slaves.
-And seen here a few bad apples quickly gave it a bad name
“It represents a time of prosperity the American South that will never be experienced again (American south had the 4th largest economy in the world in the 17th century)”
Made possible through the use of SLAVE labor….stop trying to clean up history.
Slavery has been part of the moral fiber of society for thousands of years, dating back to serfdom, even the Roman institution of slavery, which was institutionalized by the American South.
-Today morally wrong, yes, and is it still prevalent today, yes.
-I was merely stating that the Confederate Flag does not represent the sole idea of black slaves. Even though today many groups such as the KKK or Fire Eaters use it to symbolize that ideal, i wasn’t created for that purpose. It was created much like the American flag today, to represent the people.
Perhaps, but there are many symbols that came to represent something much worse than their original ideal. People who fly the confederate flag know that it represents bigotry to many people yet they display it anyway, which shows something about them. If you didn’t want your symbol of southern pride to represent racism you shouldn’t have fought to have slaves or fought against the civil rights movement throughout the 20th century. the bad behavior of the South kind of lost them the right to say what the flag stands for.
I couldn’t agree more Skippy, Reconstruction put a black eye on the south, they were unable to politically or morally deal with the changes. After the Civil War the Confederate Flags meaning changed into what it is today Bigotry.
-But you cant blame the Southern People of that era…
For example, say you worked on a machine that provided your entire communtie including yourself with the only viable means of income.
Then one day a group of people say that the machine, which has been used for thousands of years is morally wrong, and that you are out of a job. Looking through the eyes of southerners of that time period, your telling me you wouldn’t fight to keep that, which provides prosperity in tact…or be scared of the outcome if they lost that one thing that is keeping their economy afloat. The south was always a one crop economy, which was their downfall.
For example, say you worked on a machine that provided your entire communtie including yourself with the only viable means of income.
Sure, that’s a good parallel. For example I regularly beat and rape my computer. And then I sell our computer-human offspring for money (or keep the cute ones and continue raping them too.) And I’ve dangled a few from trees by the monitor, too, just to keep the rest in line.
“No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves, shall be passed.”
“The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States, and shall have the right of transit and sojourn in any State of this Confederacy, with their slaves and other property; and the right of property in such slaves shall not be impaired.”
“No slave or Person held to Service or Labour in [one State] any State or Territory of the Confederate Slates under the Laws thereof, escaping or unlawfully carried into another, shall, in Consequence of any Law or Regulation therein, be discharged from such Service or Labour, but shall be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom such slave belongs, or to whom such Service or Labour may be due.”
So you can try to re-write history all you want with this “heritage” crap. Doesn’t change the fact that the Confederation was fighting to keep slavery alive.
I do not know how to respond to this, considering its not even coherent.
-But no ones cares to look at the history, Brazil had slaves up until the 20th century….
Slaves and Masters worked hand and hand in the fields, and yes slaves did help the south become prosperous.
-But you obviously missed my point, I’m talking about the Flag…
I see your point about the flag but it still represents a people who were pro-slavery. What I don’t see is your mis-guided attempt to present American slavery as some sort of collabortive effort between slaves and those who prospered from their labors. “Hand and hand”?? really?? Yes the master’s hand held the whip, his hand held the gravel at the actions but no one in his right mind would see that as a partnership. And your statement “slaves did help…” just leaves me speechless.
You’re completely missing a point here Sara. You name 1 nation that hasn’t gotten where it is today off of the back of slavery. You think the rest of the US is blame free? Not every confederate was a bigot with slaves.
I’d suggest you pick up a book about the American South and not take the word of you history professor.
-Only one percent of slave holders in the south had 30 or more slaves, while fifty percent of the population had one or no slaves at all, but instead they filled the gap of slaves with children, and was very common that the master, the children, even the wife did a large amount of field labor.
Sara i got a question-Since when did slavery become black and white? Ill be generous and give you the last 500 years that African Slaves dominated the market (even though from 1500-1700 in Central and South America Indians dominated as slaves or wage laborers.) What about the prior 3000+ years where not only blacks, but every ethnicity experienced some form of slavery.
-Wheres my restitution check….
history aside, stop trying to justify things which are morally wrong. none of us give a s**t about the history behind it, it’s wrong, don’t do it, all you need to know….
I was merely poking fun of people who claim restitution even though NO one today in America has suffered being a slave. I find it funny we claim we are so united but still pay these people off, there are prejudices still today, including the school system-being a history teacher it is apparent.
-I was also stating that there is a possibility that one of my ancestors could have been a slave and i am not out trying to find penance for it. Its a joke.
And the Birmingham riots were during mine and my parents generation, and if they were really over it, why would they seek compensation.
You deserved the d*ckless wonder comment. You act like the end of slavery was the end of the systematic, institutionalized, large scale oppression of black people. Ever hear of jim crow? They were burning black people at parties with whole families cheering on in the 60′s. And just because a loud FEW make an issue of reparations dosen’t mean it is a major issue. EQUAL rights has always been the goal. Your view of history is so distorted it is no longer worth the effort to debate you. Good day.
..ok, as of 2008, Texas–by itself–has the 15th largest worldwide economy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Texas), and extending that to the entire “south” would bump the region up into the top tier of economic impact..Today..worldwide..
..that prosperity prior to the Civil War is somehow less now than then, or hasn’t been superseded is an outright fallacy..
..the Civil War WAS fought over slavery, primarily..there were 50 years of US expansion beforehand where Every state had to be declared “free” or “slave” to maintain a balance of power in the US Senate..AND the south had to demand that slaves be counted as 3/5ths a person so they could hold reasonable sway in the House of Representatives..
..the Emancipation Proclamation didn’t happen until well after the Civil War was underway.. September 1862, to be exact..the Civil War began with the southern assault on Fort Sumter in April 1861..
..while eliminating slavery was unpopular in the north (in some quarters), it was also the north that fostered the hotbeds of the elimination of slaves..
..and the implication that the Emancipation Proclamation was a “ploy” to is simply revisionist history..England was for the south well before the EP, due to the north taking British vessels on the high seas (they held Confederate officers)..and there was vociferous support for the north in England itself, mostly due to the slavery issue (before & after the EP)..
..moreover, France was playing both sides in an effort to offset or counter whatever the more-powerful English were doing..
..basically, all potential European input in the Civil Was was based on European politics..they tended to side with whomever looked to have the advantage in the States..
..this isn’t a tirade against the stars & bars, which does have an historical place in the US..it’s a rebuttal of the outright falsehoods Kershaw presented..
..the south at that time was, indeed, merely one region among many others that employed slavery..but they were by far the most significant (& maybe the largest, i can’t really say)..
..this was not “a few bad apples” but an endemic way of life that essentially caused the Civil War..
..it was bound to happen, as our nation was conflicted about it since the Declaration of Independence (essentially)..it was horrific & left scars that remain today–but it was NOT some sort of “noble enterprise” by the south..it was our war to continue as a nation (the War between the States)..
..i reside in Texas, and i’m super-proud of that fact..but to imply some kind of southern “brotherhood” 150yrs after, is regressive to this TXan..the south was on the wrong side of history..Deal With It, i say..
-I agree with most of your comments….
-Popular sovereignty killed any idea of having a country of free and slave states.
-The U.S Civil War wasn’t initially fought over slavery, though it became so after the Emancipation, and the flag was created before it was created.
-France and England only considered joining the war because the south provided 60% of the worlds cotton, and didn’t want to lose their investment in cheap cotton. If it wasn’t for the Emancipation they most likely would of joined the side of the south, because of this Lincoln made the War over slavery, they could not morally join the war, since they were strongly Anti-Slavery.
I wish racists could just admit what they are and not prance around like they’re just like regular people. If you’re going to be a racist you could at least be honest about it.
“modern people use race as a proxy (rough-and-ready indicator) for coalition membership, since a better-than-random guess about “which side” another person is on will be helpful if one does not actually know in advance”
..basically that says the racial-response is due to familiarity and/or upbringing factors..Not any hardwiring..
..get to know folks, & the “hardwire” is softened & even disappears..
..since we’re post-modern now (or post-post-modern even), it seems like “coalition membership” is even more “random”..so theories about genetic-racism are not only non-genetic (more an environmental condition) but more apt to be dissolving, in a more connected society and/or world..
I think the term “racist” and “prejudiced” and “stereotyping” are getting mixed here. One involves actions, one thoughts, and the other can actually be good or bad. Yes, our brain is hardwired to categorize and stereotype to survive, but that doesn’t mean we are hardwired to hate. It just means that part of the way our brain works to categorize is used by racists to hate.
I’d like to point out that rampant stereotyping can lead to racism and prejudice. And of course hate.
I still would like to know why we can’t all just get along?
I understand not liking individuals who are asshats, I don’t understand disliking a whole people.
..i tend to believe that stereotypes are a way to break down barriers..just check any comedian you’ve ever heard..”laughter is the best medicine” (whomever said that)..
..yes, it can go to extremes, but anything can do that (over-cuddling, over-pacification, over-reaction to perceived threats..even over-cooking chicken–!)..
Nope, I just know how to cook! No guilt whatsoever!
I gotta say, I’ve never tried the honey part before, and I highly recommend it, the skin came out super crispy, and the meat was still moist!
..mebbe he’s neo-KKK?..after all, they died down for awhile, until the economic crisis hit (funny how bad economics bring out the schmucks, eh?–i say we all blame the Bankers! jk, but just barely)..
..neo-Whatevuh, it ain’t good in this case..& certainly contrary to the Season..
I’d blame the practice of selling bad mortgages as first rate safe investments. There was some bs math done by the mortgage brokers who sold the bad loans to banks as being good loans. It wasn’t really the banks fault (except for those that gave the zero down loans to crack heads) they just got caught holding the bag.
PS. the banks should have done 5 minutes worth of research and they would have known the loans were bad, so with that in mind they are part of the problem.
It’s actually a reference to a South Park episode, where Randy makes a sorta-accidental racist comment involving the word ni-gger and is thus dubbed the ‘ni-gger guy’ and starts up a civil rights group with other ‘ni-gger guys’ to ban said phrase
Freedom of speech doesn’t always equal freedom of good judgement. Look at the bright side. Now that they know how he thinks and where he lives, they can act appropriately.
Geez, Avis…aren’t you just a little question box? What would be the appropriate action for you? It’s part of that freedom of speech thing. If you understand that, then you know what the appropriate action is. I can think anything I want as long as my actions don’t infringe on the rights of others. While I would certainly not build a snowman resembling a clansman, I do have that right…in my own yard. As unsettling as it might be, hate speech doesn’t infringe on my freedoms. It might really, REALLY piss me off, but it doesn’t stop me from carrying on my daily life.
I intentially wrote my original comment with ambiguity. Isn’t it interesting where our minds take us?
While you have a right to freedom of expression, you still didn’t answer my question.
And if you DO decide to build such a snowman, OWN UP TO IT, don’t hem and haw about it.
I guess I was pointing out the ambiguity of “they” and “appropriate action”. Because those words could easily be taken as “fightin’ words”, and a call to action.
When discussing such a charged issue as this, one must choose their words very carefully.
Avis, we are responsible for our own actions. If we let “fightin’ words” dictate how we respond, then we’re pretty damn weak. I think we’ve beaten this dead horse enough. Goodnight, dear.
I apologize. I was set for maximum verbosity. Got to stop…typing……now………..it hurts…..a;kfdjd;alfjd;lafjdl;kfjdl;j….somebody HELP…ljl;djsfpoaurponfdpiohf…uumpphhh.
(hits floor and succumbs to cat licking my head for comfort)
..black hair is dreamy..makes me think of nightscapes..my avatar is just as incorrect, except i like blue & i’m sorta fuzzy like it..no offense or disrespect intended..yah?..
Look up the phrase “My hair is a bird, therefore your argument is invalid” in Google, then click on images. It should take you to a highly shopped picture of Nicholas Cage. It’s a funny picture, but the meme is getting a bit old.
..avis = “bird” in Latin..the mother of all Latin tongues..
..i ck’ed Gravatar, Avis, but i guess i’m a simpleton..or get worn out too fast..i actually wanted my current avatar across all of Cheezbutger..but whatevuh..it’s all good..
According to the news article on that incident, this guy gave out spent shell casings to children on Halloween. He’s apparently got more than a couple screws loose.
but with how it’s been co-opted, the people who use the stars and bars to symbolize states’ rights are few in comparison to the ones who feel states’ rights include slavery and thus racism.
it si all in what the symbol means, but there are social connotations to be taken into consideration before the individual’s own take.
..yeah, Bjorn..like i say, intent is the ultimate indicator..but symbols do resonate..
..i guess battling intent is the goal..trying to stop symbols may or may not be effective, but the mind’s-eye tells the tale..
..once you put “social connotations” above individual rights, you risk falling into dangerous territory..imho..& yer correct that the States’-Rights vs Federalism is still at the core of American disconnect (compared to the rest of the world, i guess).
..pls DON’T vote this up (on the scale at the top)..most of Failblog’s true failure is in folks rating posts WAY too high..this one is sub-average, mostly due to content (my own included)..
It’s one thing to say what you think it’s another to directly threaten peoples life and safety, ie any reference supporting the KKK which is an organization that has carried out many murders, the fact it is not a crime to beling to the KKK shows how backwards the US justice system is. I don’t know why RICO doesn’t cover rthe KKK.
You free to think/say/believe to peoples with other skin color are worse then you.
But you must understand, it’s similar with thinking/saying/believing in flat earth theory, or something.
And if you say to somebody, he bad just because his race different with youre he might kick your ass. Maybe, he do it in courthouse.
You could admit it, like I’m admit my bad English.
Please tell me what’s going on in this video. I’m not English. So he hung a “noose” on it, I googled it. And what’s wrong about a noose. I mean it’s a white snowman, so he wants to hang white people. So he’s a self racist???
Awww. Mister big bad whitey hides the evidence, scuffs his foot, and mumbles improbable denials like a little kid caught misbehaving. That is just absolutely precious. He’s so timid about it.
There’s no reason to get angry about this. Just go into your kitchen, mix up some napalm, douse the snowklansman and set it on fire. Just deny that burning stuff on your neighbors lawn might be seen as hateful and everything will be fine.
While I have no desire to defend this guy, he might not be a member of that specific organization. I do think that what he’s done is inciting terror in others though. For what it’s worth.
I’ve heard that the KKK today is now several factions, who fight amoungst themselves. Seeing as even in America, there are laws against discriminant actions (I dearly hope), the KKK is only entitled to SAY their backward nonsense, but no lynching.
..yes on discriminatory actions, Snake..even in our bass-ackward USofA (dang we got a bad image since GBII)..even minor murders (oxymoron), get super-investigated for any racial concerns (well, usually..people are people, after all)..
..even the ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union–the guys at the forefront of our 60′s civil rights sturggles) represents Klan or even neo-Nazi demonstrations, from time to time..depending on if their rights are being impinged..
..as we love to say: “Only in America”..& what’s great is 7/8ths of the rest of the world would like to be able to say that, too..
…or a sign saying “I didn’t get the memo that we’re doing stuff that no civilized person is supposed to be doing, which is why we bother with these masks in the first place.” Now everybody knows about his affiliation AND his lack of cognitive capacity.
..more like “Holiday Spirit FAIL”..i bet he never “saw” him & his buddies burning any crosses either.. :/ ..makes me sad..
a snow ghost really shouldn’t burn anything, so big danger of melting
..does this make you sad, lowercase-jesus?..(or are you baby jesus?)..
Don’t be silly, baby Jesus can’t read!
Lowercase baby jesus can do anything. Even read.
wait what? its suppose to be a klansman with a noose around it? ISNT THAT LIKE ANTI-KKK? I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH IT.
..lowercase baby jesus must’ve removed the noose beforehand (it’s a Christmas miracle–!)..& i don’t think lcb jesus removed it from the klan-snowman’s neck..
A great noose removal miracle!
I really like jesus (upper or lower case) because technically speaking………. he was the first zombie! and awesome at it!
Jesus is all great all the time!
im with you, he is a great gardener!
Sprinkle some coffee around your garden. It’s a great organic material.
There wasn’t a noose on it anymore at the time this video was filmed – the man who made the offending snowman tries to deny there ever was a noose but the reporter says the neighbors had pictures and the neighbor they spoke to at the beginning of the video said there was a noose on it. But I expect since it’s supposed to be a Klansman and the creator of the snowman is a “self-described white separatist” w/a Confederate flag that he’s pro-KKK and that the snowman wasn’t wearing the noose but holding it. It looks like it’s holding a bayonet or other type of knife or sword now
You are correct. Put the noose back.
What a FANTASTICAL display of racist redneck stupidity!
It’s terrible, isn’t it? It’s hard to believe people like that exist – and then videos like this come out…
Please can I go on the record of saying this freaking redneck racist hog does NOT represent Idaho????
..only for once, Di..anybody got a record:?..or remember what one is??..
You saw that flag in the background, too, I see. I was thinking along similar lines.
A better photo of the snowman here:
http://verydemotivational.memebase.com/2010/12/15/demotivational-posters-kkk-snowman/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+VeryDemotivational+(Very+deMotivational)&utm_content=FaceBook
Did anyone else notice the confederate flag on the house… ya thats not racist at all…
What? The news clip is so short, what was his explanation for the pointy head? It doesn’t look like a Coneheads reference.
The guy’s caption read “self described white separatist”. While I doubt he could spell “separatist”, I think he knew very well why the news crew was there.
..wait!..can u spell seperatist, Avis??..
Why yes, I think Avis can spell ‘Separatist’ Cee_ker, can you?
..um, let me try again..
..is it: F-O-O-L..?..
..only took me 17min to come up with that..thank you!, thank you very much..
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Jeez, that was ridiculous.
The Confederate flag in the background should probably give it away.
True be it.
the Confederate flag doesn’t represent the sole ideal of slavery…
It represents a time of prosperity the American South that will never be experienced again (American south had the 4th largest economy in the world in the 17th century)
The flag was created before the Emancipation Proclamation, which turned the Civil War into a fight over slavery years after they have been fighting over restoring the Union. This was unpopular even in the North, because whites didn’t want to compete with freed slaves on a economic level. This was also a ploy by Lincoln to eliminate the idea of having France or England joining the war on the side of the south called “King Cotton”. The Confederate flag represents so much more, the rich heritage of a once thriving south, who were merely one of several other countries who had slaves.
-And seen here a few bad apples quickly gave it a bad name
“It represents a time of prosperity the American South that will never be experienced again (American south had the 4th largest economy in the world in the 17th century)”
Made possible through the use of SLAVE labor….stop trying to clean up history.
Slavery has been part of the moral fiber of society for thousands of years, dating back to serfdom, even the Roman institution of slavery, which was institutionalized by the American South.
-Today morally wrong, yes, and is it still prevalent today, yes.
-I was merely stating that the Confederate Flag does not represent the sole idea of black slaves. Even though today many groups such as the KKK or Fire Eaters use it to symbolize that ideal, i wasn’t created for that purpose. It was created much like the American flag today, to represent the people.
haha – moral fiber – sounds gross
Perhaps, but there are many symbols that came to represent something much worse than their original ideal. People who fly the confederate flag know that it represents bigotry to many people yet they display it anyway, which shows something about them. If you didn’t want your symbol of southern pride to represent racism you shouldn’t have fought to have slaves or fought against the civil rights movement throughout the 20th century. the bad behavior of the South kind of lost them the right to say what the flag stands for.
I couldn’t agree more Skippy, Reconstruction put a black eye on the south, they were unable to politically or morally deal with the changes. After the Civil War the Confederate Flags meaning changed into what it is today Bigotry.
-But you cant blame the Southern People of that era…
For example, say you worked on a machine that provided your entire communtie including yourself with the only viable means of income.
Then one day a group of people say that the machine, which has been used for thousands of years is morally wrong, and that you are out of a job. Looking through the eyes of southerners of that time period, your telling me you wouldn’t fight to keep that, which provides prosperity in tact…or be scared of the outcome if they lost that one thing that is keeping their economy afloat. The south was always a one crop economy, which was their downfall.
For example, say you worked on a machine that provided your entire communtie including yourself with the only viable means of income.
Sure, that’s a good parallel. For example I regularly beat and rape my computer. And then I sell our computer-human offspring for money (or keep the cute ones and continue raping them too.) And I’ve dangled a few from trees by the monitor, too, just to keep the rest in line.
The Confederate constitution actually states:
“No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves, shall be passed.”
“The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States, and shall have the right of transit and sojourn in any State of this Confederacy, with their slaves and other property; and the right of property in such slaves shall not be impaired.”
“No slave or Person held to Service or Labour in [one State] any State or Territory of the Confederate Slates under the Laws thereof, escaping or unlawfully carried into another, shall, in Consequence of any Law or Regulation therein, be discharged from such Service or Labour, but shall be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom such slave belongs, or to whom such Service or Labour may be due.”
So you can try to re-write history all you want with this “heritage” crap. Doesn’t change the fact that the Confederation was fighting to keep slavery alive.
you say: “American south had the 4th largest economy in the world in the 17th century”
i say: yes, on slaves’s spinal…..
just think, befor talking ……but i guess, us america? the country, where a health insurance is communistic.
People like the dumb in the video and you, ….not good for usa.
I do not know how to respond to this, considering its not even coherent.
-But no ones cares to look at the history, Brazil had slaves up until the 20th century….
Slaves and Masters worked hand and hand in the fields, and yes slaves did help the south become prosperous.
-But you obviously missed my point, I’m talking about the Flag…
I see your point about the flag but it still represents a people who were pro-slavery. What I don’t see is your mis-guided attempt to present American slavery as some sort of collabortive effort between slaves and those who prospered from their labors. “Hand and hand”?? really?? Yes the master’s hand held the whip, his hand held the gravel at the actions but no one in his right mind would see that as a partnership. And your statement “slaves did help…” just leaves me speechless.
You’re completely missing a point here Sara. You name 1 nation that hasn’t gotten where it is today off of the back of slavery. You think the rest of the US is blame free? Not every confederate was a bigot with slaves.
I’d suggest you pick up a book about the American South and not take the word of you history professor.
-Only one percent of slave holders in the south had 30 or more slaves, while fifty percent of the population had one or no slaves at all, but instead they filled the gap of slaves with children, and was very common that the master, the children, even the wife did a large amount of field labor.
Sara i got a question-Since when did slavery become black and white? Ill be generous and give you the last 500 years that African Slaves dominated the market (even though from 1500-1700 in Central and South America Indians dominated as slaves or wage laborers.) What about the prior 3000+ years where not only blacks, but every ethnicity experienced some form of slavery.
-Wheres my restitution check….
history aside, stop trying to justify things which are morally wrong. none of us give a s**t about the history behind it, it’s wrong, don’t do it, all you need to know….
I was merely poking fun of people who claim restitution even though NO one today in America has suffered being a slave. I find it funny we claim we are so united but still pay these people off, there are prejudices still today, including the school system-being a history teacher it is apparent.
-I was also stating that there is a possibility that one of my ancestors could have been a slave and i am not out trying to find penance for it. Its a joke.
And the Birmingham riots were during mine and my parents generation, and if they were really over it, why would they seek compensation.
You deserved the d*ckless wonder comment. You act like the end of slavery was the end of the systematic, institutionalized, large scale oppression of black people. Ever hear of jim crow? They were burning black people at parties with whole families cheering on in the 60′s. And just because a loud FEW make an issue of reparations dosen’t mean it is a major issue. EQUAL rights has always been the goal. Your view of history is so distorted it is no longer worth the effort to debate you. Good day.
..ok, as of 2008, Texas–by itself–has the 15th largest worldwide economy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Texas), and extending that to the entire “south” would bump the region up into the top tier of economic impact..Today..worldwide..
..that prosperity prior to the Civil War is somehow less now than then, or hasn’t been superseded is an outright fallacy..
..the Civil War WAS fought over slavery, primarily..there were 50 years of US expansion beforehand where Every state had to be declared “free” or “slave” to maintain a balance of power in the US Senate..AND the south had to demand that slaves be counted as 3/5ths a person so they could hold reasonable sway in the House of Representatives..
..the Emancipation Proclamation didn’t happen until well after the Civil War was underway.. September 1862, to be exact..the Civil War began with the southern assault on Fort Sumter in April 1861..
..while eliminating slavery was unpopular in the north (in some quarters), it was also the north that fostered the hotbeds of the elimination of slaves..
..and the implication that the Emancipation Proclamation was a “ploy” to is simply revisionist history..England was for the south well before the EP, due to the north taking British vessels on the high seas (they held Confederate officers)..and there was vociferous support for the north in England itself, mostly due to the slavery issue (before & after the EP)..
..moreover, France was playing both sides in an effort to offset or counter whatever the more-powerful English were doing..
..basically, all potential European input in the Civil Was was based on European politics..they tended to side with whomever looked to have the advantage in the States..
..this isn’t a tirade against the stars & bars, which does have an historical place in the US..it’s a rebuttal of the outright falsehoods Kershaw presented..
..the south at that time was, indeed, merely one region among many others that employed slavery..but they were by far the most significant (& maybe the largest, i can’t really say)..
..this was not “a few bad apples” but an endemic way of life that essentially caused the Civil War..
..it was bound to happen, as our nation was conflicted about it since the Declaration of Independence (essentially)..it was horrific & left scars that remain today–but it was NOT some sort of “noble enterprise” by the south..it was our war to continue as a nation (the War between the States)..
..i reside in Texas, and i’m super-proud of that fact..but to imply some kind of southern “brotherhood” 150yrs after, is regressive to this TXan..the south was on the wrong side of history..Deal With It, i say..
-I agree with most of your comments….
-Popular sovereignty killed any idea of having a country of free and slave states.
-The U.S Civil War wasn’t initially fought over slavery, though it became so after the Emancipation, and the flag was created before it was created.
-France and England only considered joining the war because the south provided 60% of the worlds cotton, and didn’t want to lose their investment in cheap cotton. If it wasn’t for the Emancipation they most likely would of joined the side of the south, because of this Lincoln made the War over slavery, they could not morally join the war, since they were strongly Anti-Slavery.
D***head fail or win?
..D-heads of this sort are always a FAIL (all-caps, all the time)..ref Josh (below) until his post is moderated..
I wish racists could just admit what they are and not prance around like they’re just like regular people. If you’re going to be a racist you could at least be honest about it.
Well, at least he’s not playing at being dumb.
..right-o, Gert..he’s wallowing in his dumb-ness..
All people are racist, it’s hardwired.
http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/20080110221353data_trunc_sys.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism#Evolutionary_theories_about_the_origins_of_racism
http://nortonbooks.typepad.com/everydaysociology/2009/04/field-experiments-and-racism.html
Some just choose to express it more regularly and openly than others.
On another note, i think it’s pretty funny, unless he was serious about it ofc.
..hermmm, the wikipedia “theory” also states:
“modern people use race as a proxy (rough-and-ready indicator) for coalition membership, since a better-than-random guess about “which side” another person is on will be helpful if one does not actually know in advance”
..basically that says the racial-response is due to familiarity and/or upbringing factors..Not any hardwiring..
..get to know folks, & the “hardwire” is softened & even disappears..
..since we’re post-modern now (or post-post-modern even), it seems like “coalition membership” is even more “random”..so theories about genetic-racism are not only non-genetic (more an environmental condition) but more apt to be dissolving, in a more connected society and/or world..
I think the term “racist” and “prejudiced” and “stereotyping” are getting mixed here. One involves actions, one thoughts, and the other can actually be good or bad. Yes, our brain is hardwired to categorize and stereotype to survive, but that doesn’t mean we are hardwired to hate. It just means that part of the way our brain works to categorize is used by racists to hate.
..wait a sec!..i enjoy stereotyping!..don’t take that away from me too–!..
..nice riposte, sb..u summarized much better than i tend to do..”hate” is the issue..let’s learn not to do that..
I’d like to point out that rampant stereotyping can lead to racism and prejudice. And of course hate.
I still would like to know why we can’t all just get along?
I understand not liking individuals who are asshats, I don’t understand disliking a whole people.
..i tend to believe that stereotypes are a way to break down barriers..just check any comedian you’ve ever heard..”laughter is the best medicine” (whomever said that)..
..yes, it can go to extremes, but anything can do that (over-cuddling, over-pacification, over-reaction to perceived threats..even over-cooking chicken–!)..
I did NOT over cook that chicken!! I roasted it with butter, honey, and onions. And a couple of garlic cloves.
..wait!..i gotta wipe aside my drool..
..why u so chicken-sensitive right now, Avis?..some kind of birdy-guilt for roasting a chick-mate?..
..u crazy!..
Nope, I just know how to cook! No guilt whatsoever!
I gotta say, I’ve never tried the honey part before, and I highly recommend it, the skin came out super crispy, and the meat was still moist!
Try a little maple syrup (the REAL kind) and rosemary. It is kill-yer-mom-for-it delish.
Is the “snowman” holding a large knife? What the?
He had been holding a noose. :/
Nazis are always fail.
I’m not sure but i don’t think the KKK were Nazis.
Nope, but sadly, neo-Nazis are present in the US. Who knows which group this fool identifies with.
..mebbe he’s neo-KKK?..after all, they died down for awhile, until the economic crisis hit (funny how bad economics bring out the schmucks, eh?–i say we all blame the Bankers! jk, but just barely)..
..neo-Whatevuh, it ain’t good in this case..& certainly contrary to the Season..
I’d blame the practice of selling bad mortgages as first rate safe investments. There was some bs math done by the mortgage brokers who sold the bad loans to banks as being good loans. It wasn’t really the banks fault (except for those that gave the zero down loans to crack heads) they just got caught holding the bag.
PS. the banks should have done 5 minutes worth of research and they would have known the loans were bad, so with that in mind they are part of the problem.
..since 1929 & before, eh?..
I pretty much hate ni-ggers
I hate ni-gger guys
..not sure if the Phlogiston handle is sarcastic or intentional (given the comment)..pseudo-byproduct of combustion..??..
..sheesh..
It’s actually a reference to a South Park episode, where Randy makes a sorta-accidental racist comment involving the word ni-gger and is thus dubbed the ‘ni-gger guy’ and starts up a civil rights group with other ‘ni-gger guys’ to ban said phrase
I hope that has cleared things up a bit
..putting all South Park on my Netflix queue..or not..whatevuh..
Good for you, now try telling it to their face.
Well said, shin0bi272. Well said.
No, Adolf, because you only have one ball.
This is a win.
For stupid.
Why do you fear different people?
..i fear dead people..wait!–i fear seeing them..wait!..uhhh..
ahahaha yay ignorant white trash… i live among them!
it’s a ghost
Is that a Confederate flag at 0:11?
..uh, what do You think, Winter?..
No, it’s flag from The Dukes of Hazzard.
Freedom of speech doesn’t always equal freedom of good judgement. Look at the bright side. Now that they know how he thinks and where he lives, they can act appropriately.
Who are “they”?
Decent people…?
..”decent” people who know where you live & how you think–??..that’s dangerous, whether you ascribe for or against this obnoxious Fail video..
..oooh baby it’s a mad world..
Yeah, right. Fine, so what “appropriate action” should they be taking?
Geez, Avis…aren’t you just a little question box? What would be the appropriate action for you? It’s part of that freedom of speech thing. If you understand that, then you know what the appropriate action is. I can think anything I want as long as my actions don’t infringe on the rights of others. While I would certainly not build a snowman resembling a clansman, I do have that right…in my own yard. As unsettling as it might be, hate speech doesn’t infringe on my freedoms. It might really, REALLY piss me off, but it doesn’t stop me from carrying on my daily life.
I intentially wrote my original comment with ambiguity. Isn’t it interesting where our minds take us?
While you have a right to freedom of expression, you still didn’t answer my question.
And if you DO decide to build such a snowman, OWN UP TO IT, don’t hem and haw about it.
I guess I was pointing out the ambiguity of “they” and “appropriate action”. Because those words could easily be taken as “fightin’ words”, and a call to action.
When discussing such a charged issue as this, one must choose their words very carefully.
‘Being bewitched by language’ – Ludwig Wittgenstien
*Sigh* Happens to all of us.
Avis, we are responsible for our own actions. If we let “fightin’ words” dictate how we respond, then we’re pretty damn weak. I think we’ve beaten this dead horse enough. Goodnight, dear.
..overkill does not make a point..learn discourse Biting Fly..
..uh, & pls ignore my own overkilly-ness..
I apologize. I was set for maximum verbosity. Got to stop…typing……now………..it hurts…..a;kfdjd;alfjd;lafjdl;kfjdl;j….somebody HELP…ljl;djsfpoaurponfdpiohf…uumpphhh.
(hits floor and succumbs to cat licking my head for comfort)
<< pets cat to encourage licking/comfort..
lol.. nice
He very likely is the president of the HOA since HOA’s are generally staffed by the most hateful people in the neighborhood.
Douchebag!
ahahaha yay ignorant white trash… i live among them!
Now that they know how he thinks and where he lives, they can act appropriately
He had been holding a noose Who knows which group this fool identifies with.
I ghost really shouldn’t burn anything, so big danger of melting
Nazis are always fail.
I feel ashamed to live in the same town as this guy =(
is that redhead girl single? shes kinda cute.
..is Jenn a redhead??..her failblog-imposed avatar seems kinda cute..
Haha thanks and no my hair is black
..black hair is dreamy..makes me think of nightscapes..my avatar is just as incorrect, except i like blue & i’m sorta fuzzy like it..no offense or disrespect intended..yah?..
You can do something about your avatar. I did.
Why do people like to point out that your avatar is a bird?
Look up the phrase “My hair is a bird, therefore your argument is invalid” in Google, then click on images. It should take you to a highly shopped picture of Nicholas Cage. It’s a funny picture, but the meme is getting a bit old.
Th-th-that’s a shop? But… wow. My entire belief system has been built upon a foundation of lies.
Don’t make me break out the shellacked mackerel!
I’ll be good. I don’t wanna get on that naughty list again this year.
Hee!
..avis = “bird” in Latin..the mother of all Latin tongues..
..i ck’ed Gravatar, Avis, but i guess i’m a simpleton..or get worn out too fast..i actually wanted my current avatar across all of Cheezbutger..but whatevuh..it’s all good..
that’s cool and all but doesnt answer my original inquiry.
I’ll say it again…
Please can I go on the record of saying this freaking redneck racist hog does NOT represent Idaho????
..you sounding like a broke record, Di..but maybe you live near Jenn & can discuss with her..
According to the news article on that incident, this guy gave out spent shell casings to children on Halloween. He’s apparently got more than a couple screws loose.
Too bad they were spent shell casings.
Looks like he’s dreaming of a white Christmas
..underrated comment-Win..(though sadly so)..
Hehehe.
I lold when I saw the Confed flag in the background.
Ah, the town of Hayden….thanks to you, Idaho is known for both potatoes and white supremacists.
Well at least he has that confederate flag. That’s a plus…right?
..that’s right..far-far Right..
..of course, my statement is left-leaning..so figure it out on yer own..
..but what’s in a flag, really?..we burn the stars & stripes, we forbid the stars & bars..it’s what’s behind it that matters..
but with how it’s been co-opted, the people who use the stars and bars to symbolize states’ rights are few in comparison to the ones who feel states’ rights include slavery and thus racism.
it si all in what the symbol means, but there are social connotations to be taken into consideration before the individual’s own take.
..yeah, Bjorn..like i say, intent is the ultimate indicator..but symbols do resonate..
..i guess battling intent is the goal..trying to stop symbols may or may not be effective, but the mind’s-eye tells the tale..
..once you put “social connotations” above individual rights, you risk falling into dangerous territory..imho..& yer correct that the States’-Rights vs Federalism is still at the core of American disconnect (compared to the rest of the world, i guess).
..it’ll all work out in the end..
The truth is, There are prejudiced people of all colors, some are just more outspoken. Some you can’t even tell what they’re saying.
What an assh0le.
Should his house burn down, the snow will melt.
It’s almost amusing seeing someone so filled with fear, if he were not so repugnant.
..pls DON’T vote this up (on the scale at the top)..most of Failblog’s true failure is in folks rating posts WAY too high..this one is sub-average, mostly due to content (my own included)..
the good thing about being free in America is the right we have to say what we think.
the bad thing about is being free in America is the right everyone else has to say what they think.
It’s one thing to say what you think it’s another to directly threaten peoples life and safety, ie any reference supporting the KKK which is an organization that has carried out many murders, the fact it is not a crime to beling to the KKK shows how backwards the US justice system is. I don’t know why RICO doesn’t cover rthe KKK.
You free to think/say/believe to peoples with other skin color are worse then you.
But you must understand, it’s similar with thinking/saying/believing in flat earth theory, or something.
And if you say to somebody, he bad just because his race different with youre he might kick your ass. Maybe, he do it in courthouse.
You could admit it, like I’m admit my bad English.
Please tell me what’s going on in this video. I’m not English. So he hung a “noose” on it, I googled it. And what’s wrong about a noose. I mean it’s a white snowman, so he wants to hang white people. So he’s a self racist???
He made it look like it was wearing a KKK robe. The KKK is more known for hanging black people.
Wow, your comment fails in every thought, direction and way.
Were you dropped on your head as a child? Multiple times?
philippe, the snowman was *holding* a noose… so he’d be hanging non-white people. It’s definitely racist against black people.
What a coward. Can’t even own up to what he does. maybe his imaginary friend did it.
White Power!
..snow-blower supremacy!..
Robin’s Egg Blue Power!
..it is fun to hate..or was that not your point?..
This would seem completely tolerable if it was 15 degrees in Fahrenheit & Halloween.
let’s cover it in chocolate syrup and eat it.
that way racism could repugnant and delicious. : )
“I never saw it.” (the noose)
“People took pictures. We have pictures.”
“?? Well, I never saw it.”
I reject your reality and replace it with my own. There was no noose with the snowKlansman
Awww. Mister big bad whitey hides the evidence, scuffs his foot, and mumbles improbable denials like a little kid caught misbehaving. That is just absolutely precious. He’s so timid about it.
a snow ghost really shouldn’t burn anything, so big danger of melting
anyone else notice the confederate flag in the background?
What an idiot
But still not as big a fail as say . . . putting a noose on the cover of Golf Magazine. Remember that one?
There’s no reason to get angry about this. Just go into your kitchen, mix up some napalm, douse the snowklansman and set it on fire. Just deny that burning stuff on your neighbors lawn might be seen as hateful and everything will be fine.
..there’s a point to be made here..only i’m missing it..maybe it’s napalm fumes in my eyes..
The KKK is a terrorist organization. Doesn’t that make this guy a terrorist?
While I have no desire to defend this guy, he might not be a member of that specific organization. I do think that what he’s done is inciting terror in others though. For what it’s worth.
Oh I’m terrorized, all right. To become that ignorant and scared. Guy doesn’t even have the cojones to admit what he did.
I’ve heard that the KKK today is now several factions, who fight amoungst themselves. Seeing as even in America, there are laws against discriminant actions (I dearly hope), the KKK is only entitled to SAY their backward nonsense, but no lynching.
..yes on discriminatory actions, Snake..even in our bass-ackward USofA (dang we got a bad image since GBII)..even minor murders (oxymoron), get super-investigated for any racial concerns (well, usually..people are people, after all)..
..even the ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union–the guys at the forefront of our 60′s civil rights sturggles) represents Klan or even neo-Nazi demonstrations, from time to time..depending on if their rights are being impinged..
..as we love to say: “Only in America”..& what’s great is 7/8ths of the rest of the world would like to be able to say that, too..
Dude… There’s a Confederate flag hanging right behind him. Who does he think he’s fooling?
I love how he has the Confederate flag up there too.
These people are fugg’n stupid
…or a sign saying “I didn’t get the memo that we’re doing stuff that no civilized person is supposed to be doing, which is why we bother with these masks in the first place.” Now everybody knows about his affiliation AND his lack of cognitive capacity.
(*_*)
Holiday tact fail? More like fail at life? Human being fail? This isn’t really funny. It’s just sad.
Well, he tried to make a burning cross outa snow, but it just kept melting.
Dear Axe,
NO, I DO NOT WANT “TOUCH-ABLY CLEAN HAIR”.
STOP ASKING.
obviously a confederate flag in the background, maybe its just a coincidence
Marry me.
I’m guessing a slight ED problem as well. Please Texas, secede already.
As a white person I for one am glad he is a white seperatist. I want this idiot as far away from me as possible.
@Teslarawkes You just got served.
@ Greeble Way to go.
Ohh, NOOSE? I thought you said MOOSE. Hell yeah it had a noose. All I’m saying is, I never saw no MOOSE there.
a noose around a snowman?…..i agree with this white supremacist…KILL WHITEY!!!
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K T N !!!