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*click click* we don’t take too kindly to firsts ’round these websites
forthy-six!
6+6+6=Omen.
18 FTW
elebenty seven!!!! Booyah!
GOOGLE: FREE HUGS FAIL
psst… 666 was a medieval typo, the number of the beast is 616.
Nope, it’s actually 404
404: The internet equivilent of the BSOD.
404 errors are not, the BSOD is way worse then not finding a document where a link points to.
i don’t know what if you had an eternity of 404?
and BSOD on top of that?
(Billy’s Sudden Ordinary Death)
That’s a viable critical conclusion, but is by no means a settled question in the academic community.
actually, it’s not a typo. in Latin Gematria it is 666, in Greek Gematria it’s 616. The medieval translation you refer to is based off the Latin text.
How do we know the number of the beast isnt 867-5309 ?
*based ON!
The number can be either, depending on how you write “Nero”.
Yeah, I’ve already heard that theory. There was a translation mistake from the original documents of the bible. They translated to 666 but it was written 616.
isnt it really 999? just what ive heard.
It was my first first. Do you remember your first time? My soul feels like the smell of burning cat fur.
Yes I remember my first time it was the most wonderful feeling a body can feel…..oh we where talking about first on fail blog.LOL
were exactly do you come from?
Are you a baptist?
maybe a raptist
or just pissed
Hahahaha
yer ffs
yer
Oh, that’s fun…
yay! I thought this was widely known?
That’s the fail. It’s so wide known that you don’t need to put it in a sign. It’s like putting up bulletin boards saying “1+1=2″.
What? 1+1=2? When did that happen. Next you will tell me that 2+2=4, Right?
Hey, why am I in this red rectangle and where did this wall come from?
You want to know what else is shockingly true? The Pope IS Catholic and bears DO sh*t in the woods!
Spiro: Cube, can you disable the Phonetix alarm system?
Cube: Can a dwarf blow a hole in his pants?
Spiro: What was that?
Cube: Eh… Nothing. Technical term. You wouldn’t understand.
OMG, I fraggin’ LOVE Artemis Fowl. I have all the books. <3
I love you two so much.
YOU LIIIIIIIEEE!!!!
*snicker*
Everyone knows 2 + 2 = elebenty seven, silly!
No, silly, 2+2=5!!!
Wrong! 2+2= 3,984!
Ever read 1984? No? Didn’t think so.
Did we just detect independant thought?
A…a what thought??
*eyes brim with tears*
He was thinking of azure jewelry.
*stares in horror at misspelling*
*screams and runs away*
I believe that it was a franchised thought. I know that I’ve heard of a chain of thought somewhere.
Is this the chain that leases Jesus?
Only if you send it on to 14 of your friends.
So the Great Chain of Being was actually a chain letter??
The Chain of Being could be a computer link.
If the Chain of Being is a computer link, than what is the Mortal Coil?
My preferred mortal coil is lemon scented duct tape.
It was a dance fad that came just after Shuffle Off to Buffalo. Shuffle Off this Mortal Coil quickly died out.
Does it sanitize as it bounds?
Only if it’s a quicker picker upper.
Mortal coil, that’s what they had before electronic ignition systems.
GOOGLE: FREE HUGS FAIL
bhn
Or well… his loss.
Wrong. 2+2=22.
2+2=10
At least in base 4.
All your base are equal ten.
Noooo… now, that’s just baseless.
There are 10 kinds of people in the world … (Do I really need to complete this one?)
*giggle* I love binary.
2+2 = Chuck Norris
You’re all wrong. 2+2=OVER NINE THOUSAND!
All your base are belong to us!
That’s a complete church fail. The word “sign” seems unnecessary.
You are satan’s slave
What ever happened to the practice of tossing Christians to the lions?
The lions prefer sinners. They’re marinated meat.
I think they are more charbroiled.
The lions prefer preachers from Westboro.
I dunno, I guess burning nonbelievers at a stake ended up being more popular
Burning people smell like bacon!
But taste of chicken… Hmm…
*creepy comment*
No, actually they taste like pigs. That’s why in the language of cannibal tribes, humans were called “long pigs”. ^^
*/creepy comment*
I like the smell of roasted heretics in the morning.
Would you like jam or honey with your heretic?
Both please!
…Hey, if I’m already doomed, what’s a little gluttony amongst friends?
*hands over jam and honey in golden pots*
I’d offer coffee but it’s all the way over there.
You can’t have the chai, it’s mine!
I’m much too cool and important to drink chai, anyway.
You mean – your master doesn’t let you drink chai?
*ignores the mayhem below with gritted teeth*
So, what, you think you’re more important than I am? Huh? Just because you don’t drink chai?
*smacks DW with a pillow*
OooOOOOoooo. That kinda turned me on…!
*grabs MelONyx, three firemen, and a physics nerd, leads all into a private room and locks the door*
*comes back out for more pillows*
*grabs the jam and honey as an afterthought*
You guys are having such a great time! I wish I was in there with you.
i like mine with habanero
i like the flavor of roasted christians in the dead of night
Heretics, not nonbelievers; the medieval Church saw nonbelievers as being outside her jurisdiction, and were therefore not killed because of their unbelief. Or at least, if they were, it was due to mob violence, and not to official ecclesiastical actions.
Daniel was Jewish.
My younger brother? Nope.
Sheesh, Coyote.. I just spend five minutes singing that song in my head, trying to figure out if it’s “Daniel, My brother, you are older than me” or “younger than me”.
Do you still feel the pain?
The scars, they won’t heal.
I’d forgotten about that song. I was referring to an actual factual younger brother. In the song it’s “older”, by the way.
Daniel my brother, he’s older than me.
Do you still feel the pain? Of the scars that won’t heal…
The Romans became Christians and went from exterminating other cultures for being ‘Barbarians’ and there for a threat to Civilisation, to exterminating other cultures for being ‘Hethans’ and there for it was to save their souls.
While I am aware that this is not a sign for a Catholic church, I really don’t think I need to point out that this gives further credence to the case that organised religeon is a terrible idea.
By all means, beleive in a higher power, I certainly do, but don’t let someone else tell you what to beleive, especially when it comes from a man who’s apparently only qualification to do so is a funny collar and/or a big hat.
These guys are Baptist, not Catholic. They don’t answer to the Pope. In fact I don’t think there’s much of a hierarchy beyond the local minister.
Damn you, Poe’s law!
He should say thank you for that…
We can think freely?
Well that signs fails on fail blog?
I don’t get it.
*tilts head*
What was that dark master?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahaha!!!
A free thinker uses apostrophes correctly.
You were expecting proper spelling out of them? Let’s work on one problem at a time here.
Apostrophes are the commas of the devil. We don’t engage in that sin here!
*points at your apostrophe* GASP!
Repent! I will go get the holy water!
Oops.. I think cipher_nemo melted…
^ That is a little fishy.
*sniff..snifffffffffff*
I smell brimstone.
Sorry, that was me. Too many beans for dinner.
That Basalt and bean casserole is irresistable!
*swaps a for i*
bisilt ind beins?
Maybe it isn’t a possessive characteristic, they were just exercising their right to call someone a satans slave.
..and we all know what happens to free thinkers, they get burned at the stake by those with delusions, just go ask Giordano Bruno
His ashes, scattered by the Tiber river over 400 years ago, don’t seem to be answering.
What number did you dial?
And did you try and leave a message?
8675-309
You gave me something I can hold on to.
That’s it! I figured it out! 2+2=867-5309!! I r sofa king smart!!
Meh.
I’d much rather be a free-thinker and revel in my heathen self.
Oh yes, me too also!!!
Welcome!! You’ll fit right in here!!
I’m not a free thinker, but my rates are very reasonable.
My Rates:
A thougth = $0.01
A thougth of what you said = $0.02
A thougth related to what you said = $1.00
A question = $64,00.00
Is there taxes on that question?
Well, that would be the $1 Million Dollar answer.
Thats what I thought.
All of this thinking. FAILblog is running up quite the tab.
Hands coyote the bill and *runawaywithquickness*
I don’t accept Bills. I only take Williams. I gots class I do.
I’d go for Benjamins, but that’s just me.
*swaps all T’s and H’*
Sorry, just my [thought of what you said.]
your thougth(s) cost money… but what about thoughts?
If you’re a “free thinker”, are you thoughts then not controlled by Satan? Hence the word “free”? Oh, that’s right, you’re thinking outside of church XYZ’s canon and hence if you’re not one of us, you’re “of the world” and a sinner. I’ve seen churches that have it right then churches that have it oh so wrong like this one.
I think they were referring to this (linky), although it doesn’t have the space.
No they weren’t. Hence the space between “free” and “thinker”. They really believe that being slaves of some church criminal is better.
I guess next week they’ll change it to “Blessed is the mind too small for doubt” or “Serve the Lord today, for tomorrow you might be dead”
Warhammer 40K quotes, except swap ‘Lord’ for ‘The Emperor’
I’m stealing “blessed is the mind too small for doubt”. Crap like this is why I call myself a recovering Catholic. Even as a little kid, I found it offensive to be called a sheep. Dear Satan, thanks for my freedom.
Amen Lizzy! Ditto here…and Catholic school is worse! Been there, done that, got put out of religion classes for thinking freely within the first 5 minutes of the first day of class from 7th grade – graduation.
But… Luther… Paul… Jesus… THEY were free thinkers… EVERYTHING I KNOW IS A LIE!!!
But do you know Cake?
Cake is Satan’s minion.
I would rather be Satin’s minion.
*paints Velvet’s disco ball all red*
Red Velvet…that sounds about right!
But Christmas cake is Santa’s minion?
Fruit cakes are evil.
I heard the cake is a lie.
in soviet russia, cake eats you
But at least it’s free.
This cake is fail
I like pie.
Pancakes, Rock, pancakes!
The Rock & Sock Connection = Epic Win FTW!!
I think that’s also the motto of the Democratic Party.
That’s HILARIOUS! …But, at least you called it the Democratic Party – instead of the “Democrat Party”.
More like Demoncratic Party, am I right?
Or… Or, the DemonRatIck Party. Or, the DemoCRAPic Party! Oh! They’ve gotta get that one into the next set of talking points!
I like DemonRatIck Party the best. It sacrifices sense for insults. Perfect for politics!
That’s incredibly ironic considering how many Conservatives are religious.
Hooray for making normal, sane Christians look stupid…
“Normal, sane Christians”??
That’s the oxymoron of the month! LOL
Religion is a mental disease. That’s a scientific fact! You can deny it, but that won’t make it go away.
There is no such thing as a sane religious person.
Just as much as there is no sane schizophrenic (essentially the same disease).
I wouldn’t put it that harshly. A person’s religion is something to be respected, though I agree many religious debates do get out of hand and descend into a sort of “OH YEAH?! WELL OUR GOD’S BETTER!!! SO THERE!” argument. Clickie for what I’m saying in song-form. I guarantee it’s hilarious.
Bondfan, since when do “Our God is better” arguments happen? I really don’t think those are common. In fact, they are incredibly rare or non-existent. Almost 3 Billion people in the world believe in the exact same God (Christianity, Islam, and Judaism) So when there is a religious debate between 2 people, the odds are incredible that they believe on the same god. On top of that, those three religions are the only monotheistic religions in the world. So in that world, “God on God” doesn’t really exist.
That makes the whole argument worse. They aren’t arguing over who has the better god, but over how to worship that god. And that’s just silly!
Hey, they could be killing fellow Muslims in Darfaur because of their race. That’s even worse.
Actually, and following on from Avis’ point, it’s also just not true that all those monotheists agree that they are worshipping the same “God” – clickie for what’s been happening in Malaysia over the question of which group gets to call its deity by what name.
Are you that naive?
Even within Christianity the catholics and the protestants don’t get along, haven’t for centuries, and the violence continues even to this day. Violence in the name of religion is nothing new, but perhaps it should be ‘My interpretation of God’s word is better than yours’ rather than a straight up deity Royal Rumble type deal.
My psycho-religious family explained to me what they felt the difference between Missouri Synod Lutheranism (what they believe) and E.L.C.A (Evangelical Lutheran Church of America). They say that the M. Synod believes that the Bible is God’s word to man, while the E.L.C.A. thinks that the Bible is man’s word about God. My family seems to think that onlyM. Synod members will get into heaven.
Heaven’s smaller than what I remember…
It’s seem even smaller, as they expect Rush Limbaugh to be there too!
Rush Limbaugh?! You don’t happen to have a map that will take me straight to hell do you?
Apparently you just need to keep being a free thinker.
Oh dear.
I didn’t claim that my family made any sense!!
~What? Now I suppose you’re going to tell me that Pat Robertson is not worthy of Heaven…~
*Kicks
into post*
Not according to my family!!
Honestly Avis. I strongly dislike the guy. I think the GOP was the worst thing to happen the Christianity and vise-versa. I strongly oppose anybody who perpetuates their union.
So do I. But I’m related to them. I have to be nice to them.
Yeah, I know what you mean. But if my Sister-In-Law starts degrading any of my beliefs, I show no mercy…
I simply tell my family that my ideals are not up for discussion. It doesn’t always work. But I do tell them. I cut my aunt off a couple of Christmases ago, telling her I would NOT discuss religion or politics with her. She didn’t respond to well.
It wouldn’t be so bad if they didn’t think that everybody but them is going to hell. I consider myself religious, but I refuse to believe in a deity who forsakes people because they “didn’t pray the magic prayer,” or for the absence of Holy Water. Honestly, when confronted by those people, I often feel compelled to ask them where in the Bible it states that the Bible is infallible.
You could go into the Federal Jehovah’s Witness protection program Avis. They change your name and basically set up a new life for you.
@Ferme La Bouche *Drinks Acerglyn*
I actually read “bible is inflammable”… I would like to test that theory, but I don’t know where to get a bible… I do not even think that I saw a copy of a bible before in my life. Would be fun hour if I could find one…
How many people have you met at any church gathering that you’d want to spend eternity with?
None. I don’t even want to be at the church gathering with them!
The Jewish community has it written “that only 100,000 will enter the gates of heavens”. To be honest I hope most of them make it.
Aw shucks thanks dude
But as a Jew I demand you cite your source for that material
In reality Jews have moved away from the duality of heaven/hell that Christians embrace and instead go for a more karmic cycle kind of thing where souls are constantly reused and reborn to complete the things they couldn’t in a previous life.
Also as an FYI according to jewish lore Satan is G-d’s Angel of Justice, so being a slave of Satan must mean that all free thinkers are lawyers
Free? Have you seen what they’re charging these days?
Clickie for an article about how many people go into heaven. According to this, the source of the number is in the Book of Revelation and the Gospel of Luke. Both sources are in the New Testament and therefore not Jewish.
*opens the door*
*sees Fluffy standing there with The Watchtower in her hand*
Ahem…. Can I talk to you about Satan’s slave?
But seriously… I donno what made me post that clickie…
Maybe this Watchtower will be more agreeable? (clickie)
Honestly, I’m shooting for Purgatory.
umm, according to Catholic dogma everyone who is in purgatory is going to make it to heaven eventually anyway, so if you end up in purgatory that’s actually pretty good.
You really don’t know your religions, do you?
right now in Indonesia people are beating each other up because the christians want to call their god allah. If that’s not “our god is better” what is?
A person’s religion is so not something to be respected.
It’s Muslims that call their god ‘Allah’ not Christians
Actually, among Christians in predominantly Muslim countries the term “Allah” is apparently widely used where English-speaking Christians use “God”, and the recent troubles in Malaysia (not Indonesia) are the exception, rather than the rule. Note from the link in my address that even the Malaysian courts seem to agree that there is no reason Malaysian Christians should not call their deity “Allah”, just as Muslims speaking English not infrequently use the word “God”.
Why, exactly, should any religion be respected? If any one of them is right, then all the others are just plain wrong. Would you extend the same respect to Wicans? To Druids? How about Pastafarians?
I extend the same respect to Wiccans and Druids. I think the Pastafarians are nuts, but so are the Lutherans. And I still respect them.
Saying you don’t respect another’s religion is just prejudice. Even though a religion may be eccentric, that is that person’s belief, and you shouldn’t poke fun at that.
So her belief that a certain is nuts is not to be respected?
Make that: … a certain group is …”
Ummm…
*scratches head*
Er….
*stares blankly*
MY BRAIN HURTS!
I didn’t think his comment was directed at me. I did say that I still respect them!!
Exactly. My post was directed at Eidolon. I was just expanding on your point, Avis.
This is how I think about it; I respect people…I don’t always respect what they believe, nor am I obligated to. For me, this translates to: I tend to not poke fun at people’s religious beliefs in front of them because it’s just rude, and disrespectful to the person.
This in no way means that I must respect that religion, or what it teaches.
And how does one respect ALL beliefs? Can I respect the Thuggee? Often what people mean when they say “respect” is “Keep your mouth shut”.
Respect can get very complicated.
And how can you respect ALL people, too? I mean…there are all kinds of people I don’t respect. I don’t respect racists. I don’t respect people who value money over people. I don’t respect those who cheat or lie or willfully hurt others.
Often “keeping your mouth shut” is more damaging than speaking out.
But, DW, it still sounds like it’s the ideas and behaviour you’re saying you don’t respect; not the people. And of course a society in which ideas are not open to interrogation, criticism, and even ridicule (e. g., in the form of satire) is one in which it is impossible to engage in serious debate, discussion, and inquiry. One of the more serious effects of attempts to render everything on-line “safe for children”, for example, would be the inability of adults to engage in serious conversation.
I certainly don’t respect ALL ideas; I do think there are times and places that are better for engaging with them than others; and in some cases, with some individuals, there may well simply be no point in trying to engage.
Hmmm…this brings up an interesting question.
Is there always a difference between acting a certain way and being a certain way? If someone acts as something, you can say you disrespect the behavior or the idea, as you say. If someone IS a certain way, that puts the responsibility on the person and not the behavior.
At some point, I honestly believe that your actions must reflect who you actually are. So yes, I can say that I disrespect the behavior, but I can also say I have little or no respect for a person who would behave that way.
She isn’t required to respect those religions. But she still respects the people who believe them. That she doesn’t respect racists or bigots doesn’t change that fact. Those are people that BEHAVE a certain way. And she doesn’t have to.
That question is the source of much debate DW. I personally have a hard time accepting that they are separate. We live in a physical world that requires action, and interaction. A persons words and deeds are the only thing I have to define him/her with, and in my opinion talking is easy.
Oh, and you can’t respect everybody. Respect is something that is earned.
Well said, Scott…VERY well said!
I find it best to look for patterns of behavio(u)r before deciding someone is a certain way and giving people the benefit of the doubt. I used to be much more suspicious of people’s motivations than I am now. I’ve learned from a friend to be less so, and I’ve been happier for it.
Agreed, Admiral. Having an open mind, and not making quick judgments about anybody is key.
What makes you say that Admiral? Hmmm >_>
*squeezies the peeps*
I ♥ you guys.
It’s nice to be able to have an adult conversation about such things.
*adds more peepsqueezies*
What I was trying to get at is that I don’t think we can or have to try to respect all ideas, and I do think it’s acceptable not to respect a class (in the sense of “group, set”) of people provided that class is defined by a common allegiance to an idea or a kind of behavio(u)r that is harmful to others. A racist, for example, is defined by an attitude; not by ethnicity, birth, culture, religion, etc. – we identify racists by their statements and their behaviour. Similarly, to say “I just can’t stand [insert nationality]” or “I cannot respect [insert religion]“, for example, seems to me a usually unacceptable kind of not respecting; to say, “I cannot respect the beliefs / policies of [insert incumbent government of nation, or religious organization] on [insert topic]” seems to me an acceptable kind of not respecting.
Of course, even if it is right in one’s view to oppose another person’s ideas, attitude, or behaviour, that still doesn’t make it right to express that opposition in every way, time, or place – for strategic or ethical reasons, it might not be.
It seems to me that you are conflating “I don’t respect” and “prejudice” here. The two are not the same, would you not agree?
I think it must be something in my expression that is causing a problem here, because I don’t think I disagree much (if at all) with you or the other FPs, DW, or that I did conflate the two. I was actually trying to make the distinction between prejudice (which I take to be not respecting people on the basis of inherent characteristics, or of membership in some group) and rejection of ideas, attitudes, and / or behaviour that one finds objectionable (which I take to be not respecting those things, or not respecting people who persistently exhibit those things).
As long as people don’t loose their religion, I’m tolerant of their opinion.
*sends AA to the corner and turns the spotlight on him*
*plays the Mandolin*
♫ Oh no, I’ve said too much ♫
But if you make fun of them behind their backs is that not the same thing. One must acknowledge all religion orders to understand one owns beliefs. A way of judging where they stand on their beliefs, a bar sort of speak.
Do you draw a difference between belief and religion?
I slowly contracted a headache while scrolling down this conversation. I don’t know why.
Anyway, there’s nothing wrong with one religion (or sect) worshiping a God (the same God) in a different way, like someone said above. It’s like the differences in how Americans and Europeans drink beverages. Europeans generally like it warm, and Americans like it ice cold, but they are still drinking for the same thing, the beverage.
All God ever said was “believe in me, worship me” Religion is flawed, only because PEOPLE are flawed. It’s just like anything else. Certain atheists just don’t seem to understand that.
God is a construct of man.
Erm…I don’t believe I said anything that contradicts what you just said here.
…and you may or may not be a certain atheist.
Oh sure Avis. Blame it on men.
Well a woman wouldn’t have come up with that!!!!!
*snicker*
Best joke I’ve ever heard, even if it is corny: What did God say when He made man?
“I can do better.”
And then He made woman.
I like the way you think GLM, I really really do!!
Us gals have to stick together, doncha know?
Avis, you’re a little speck of flesh in a gigantic mostly unknown Universe in which Mankind ignorantly thinks they have a firm grasp of what reality is. What the F*** do you know.
Guess you could say the same about Theists, but Atheists are the ones who make the “omg thats sooo stupid, flying spaghetti monster” comment when really, they’re just human, in an infinite universe in which anything could happen. Whenever Atheists say how could there possibly be a supreme being it just makes me cringe. Mankind is nothing, insignificant, we know NOTHING about reality no matter how much we fool ourselves into thinking so. I will say it a million times over. What the F*** do you know.
Knowing when another is being facetious might be helpful.
Yes, I am a tiny speck of flesh in this world. So are you. I speak of what I know, my family, my friends, the world as I know it. I don’t claim to know the meaning of life, but I sure as hell will joke about it. My opinions are just as valid as the next persons. Even yours.
I should also say that I speak from experience. I grew up with religion. I saw first hand the hypocrisies inherent. Luckily I live in a society that allows me to voice my point of view. It is not one that I came to lightly.
Well you convinced me Essayons. Hallelujah, הַלְּלוּיָהּ, Halleluya, Halləlûyāh! I’m born again.
Essayons – the universe isn’t infinite and I like my beverages ice cold, except coffee and tea.
Actually, Essayons, we know quite a bit about reality. Go take a couple of college-level physics classes, they’ll be quite enlightening.
Sure, there are still lots of things we don’t know, but the important thing is that we have absolutely no reason to believe that any sort of supernatural being exists. We can’t prove that one doesn’t exist since you can’t prove a negative; likewise, though, you can’t prove that I don’t have an invisible pink unicorn in my backyard. Nonetheless, I’m not going to expect anybody to say, “Well, we can’t prove Min doesn’t have an invisible pink unicorn, so we can’t specifically say ‘You don’t have one!’” …
But what makes you think it’s an “either/or” question? Would you say that if the Cherokee’s native beliefs are correct (as it is, for them) then the Blackfoot have it all wrong?
You only get into “One is right so the rest must be wrong” when you have a religion (like, for example, Christianity) which insists that there is ONLY one right answer. They see everything through the lens of their own religion and won’t admit that there ARE any other gods– despite the Bible saying there is (“Though shalt have no other gods before Me”); so to them, they are right, and everyone else is deceived by Satan.
Me, as a Heathen, I don’t see Christians as all being servants of Loki or anything retarded like that– wrong pantheon.
And as a Heathen, I would hope that my religion WOULD be just as respected as a Christians– Freedom of religion doesn’t mean “choose your flavour of Christianity.” XD
Also, Thor kicks Jesus’s butt. XD XD
Also also: I cannot believe I am arguing theology on failblog. XD Fail, self; fail. XD
> A person’s religion is something to be respected…
That’s your opinion. I think a person’s religion is open to mockery and ridicule until the person starts THINKING. Did you see the picture that started this discussion?
ALL thoughts, opinions, and beliefs are open to mockery and ridicule including atheism.
Right on – “fundamentalism is a mindset that sees every thing black and white. And if you see it ano0ther way you’re just wrong. This
is a mind set most prominent in Religion but actually found in almost any discipline. The Positivists in Science, the Behaviorists in Psychology, -any ideologue who holds It’s my way or the highway.
I believe you are a troll.
To clear it up, iamn00bs comment was placed before mine. =p
This is why people think Atheists are ignoriant Assclowns.
That, and I’ve only met like 3 atheists who were respectable.
The vast majority of atheists have a simple 2 point creed:
1. THERE IS NO GOD!!
2. And I HATE him.
If God IS so fictitious, you don’t see people getting that angry about the easter bunny
The vast majority of your comment is false, Miguel.
Most atheists say:
1. I do not believe in any god.
2. I wish the vocal minority would stop telling me what I believe.
That’s it.
I’m guessing you don’t actually know any atheists. Am I right?
I’ve never met an atheist who was angry about any god. Most are angry at the vocal and psychotic fundies (of ALL religions) who use their deity of choice as justification for horrible acts and beliefs.
*gives Johnny S. a cookie*
Thank you. Very well spoken.
Well, but wrong. You’re not an atheist if you say “I don’t believe in God; you have to say “There is no God” to really be an atheist. Otherwise you’re an agnostic.
“There are no gods.” = “strong atheist”
“I do not believe in any gods.” = “weak atheist”
At least, that is the way a lot of non-believers see it; whereas agnosticism is more a position of positive doubt in the absence of certainty: “a-gnosis” (without [claiming positive] knowledge) versus “a-theos” (without [believing in] god[s]). See also the more subtle distinctions in my clickie down there VVV.
Hmm. If I’d follow that definition I’d have to agree. But on the other hand it is a very blurry definition and therefore impractical to use. Especially because there are also the terms “weak” and “strong” agnosticism. I would argue that atheism is the claim that the belief in God(s) is not true, while weak agnosticism means “I don’t know”, strong a. is “I can’t know”. (Then there’s also the “pragmatic” a. which says “dunno if God exists; it doesn’t matter to my everyday life either way”) Defining the terms like that helps getting around the strange “Agnostic theist: believes a god exists, but doesn’t claim to know that this belief is true”. Who says that? I’ve never met anyone saying that.
BTW – I noticed that these Wiki pages exist only in English. Maybe that is the reason for this confusion? Could be an English-speakers thingy, or some atheists tired of being accused that they’re saying pretty much the same thing like theists. You get a different picture in the non-”ironchariots” Wiki: ht tp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism That seems to back up the definition I use for these terms.
Addendum to my first paragraph: When an a-theist claims “the belief in God is not true” I don’t see where there’s an open door to “God could exist”. Therefore I’d say the a-theist claims the same personal certainty the theist claims – but the theist could have “met” God, because if there’s an almighty God it is certainly in his power to reveal himself in a way unprovable to others to an individual, while leaving no doubt in the head of said individual that he IS real.
I think the point for those who use the “weak atheist” label as I’ve described it, and as defined on that wiki, is that for any proposition there are in fact (at least) four positions:
1. I hold this particular proposition to be true.
2. I do not hold this particular proposition to be true.
3. I hold this particular proposition to be false.
4. I am not in a position to determine whether this particular proposition is true or false.
If theism is the proposition, then 1 is the view of a theist, 2 of a “weak atheist”, 3 of a “strong atheist”, 4 of (some) agnostics. 2 and 3 are in fact different as regards their content and their basis: 2 is the assertion that the speaker finds no compelling reason to consider or to adopt the proposition; 3 is the assertion that the speaker finds compelling reason to consider the proposition untrue.
Consider the case of a belief system that, for example, posited the existence of immortal personal spirits, or a kind of generalized cosmic force, but not of deities as such. Such a belief system would be atheist in the “weak atheist” sense (i. e., it would simply not figure gods into its worldview), but not in the “strong atheist” sense (i. e., it would not assert positively that “there are no gods”, the existence or otherwise of gods not being relevant to its claims).
Or consider a completely different kind of claim, for example that the moon is made of green cheese. A person might actively deny the claim; or he or she might simply not consider it sufficiently credible either to hold or to refute: the first person would hold a position equivalent to “strong atheism”, the second to “weak atheism”.
Just realized I took a very long comment to cover a simple distinction. As I have seen them used, “weak atheism” is more or less equivalent to saying “no argument or evidence I have encountered is sufficient to lead me to the view that any gods do exist”; “strong atheism” to saying “the argument or evidence I have encountered leads me to the view that no gods exist”.
Understood. But I still would say that as soon as someone allows doubts about the question whether or not God(s) exist it’s a form of agnosticism. Wiki defines theism: “Theism in the broadest sense is the belief in at least one deity. In a more specific sense, theism refers to a particular doctrine concerning the nature of a god and his relationship to the universe.” I’d argue that the (dis)belief in God differs from, let’s say, “I believe it’ll rain tomorrow”. That belief is open to being wrong – no-one can really predict the weather.
The belief in God’s existence isn’t open to this kind of inherent doubt – either you believe in God with the personal certainty that you’re right or you don’t. I’d say that as soon as a theist says “I believe in God, but I could be wrong” he really is an agnostic; it’s the same when a atheist says “I don’t, but I could be wrong”. Personal certainty is – in my eyes – a precondition for an (a)theist claim. Doubt is the precondition for agnosticism.
Therefore I define (a)theism in one sentence each, to cover the two “extreme” standpoints on that matter: “God exists” and “God doesn’t exist”. Agnosticism needs some finer definitions to fully cover the spectrum of possible opinions on that matter, but doubt is always necessary.
Thank you Johnny.
I take a special delight in anybody who is able to clarify their beliefs without resorting to clichés and childish banter. That goes for anybody in any religion/belief. It’s a shame that people automatically think of the worst of the bunch when they think of any single social group.
Hear! Hear!
Clickie for a pretty good attempt to untangle the terms.
If you’ve never met an angry atheist or one who gets pissy at all believers not just fundamentalists then you haven’t met many atheists yourself.
You can’t just assume that all or even most people think the same way you and your friends do and then say anyone who’s met someone who thinks differently is a liar. That is not logical.
You’d *like* for most atheists to think the same way you do. You do not know that they do any more than Miguel knows that most are angry at G-d.
Well I’ve met hundreds of atheists in my life and am one myself. I can tell you now that miguel is wrong. I have never met an atheist who was angry at god. You can’t be angry at something in which you don’t believe. Have you ever been angry at Santa for not brining you the gift you wanted (since you learned he didn’t exist)? Of course not because you don’t get angry at the non-exstant. Well neither do atheists.
It seems that both you and Miguel have some deeply held stereotypes that you don’t want to part with. The fact is you are both wrong. If you had ever met an atheist who claimed to hate god (i doubt you have) then that person would not be an atheist.
FYI the Judeo/Christian god’s name is Yahwey. You don’t need the g-d.
*sigh*
Grr! Don’t even get me STARTED on the %$#@% Easter Bunny!
Well, ♫ I don’t believe in Peter Pan, Frankenstein or Superman ♫
People get just that angry about the Easter bunny and Santa all the time.
Baptists are a sect of christianity, so this does not go for all Christians. I bet they’re foot washing – baptists too, even worse.
Sign guy must have a sense of humour
Just as long as it’s not a sense of hubris. The church don’t like that kind of thing.
But it was the ancient Greeks and their gods who got really worked up about hubris.
the real fail is the finger in the shot
Maybe its a free thinker attacking the camera man?! D=
How is this a fail?
It is true.
So thinking for yourself = evil?
Or am I misreading snark for sincerity?
only if you go under the (wrong) assumption that satan is evil, when in fact satan is god’s employee that runs hell. so satan is just doing his job, and isn’t evil at all. he’s like a warden.
Just looks like every other church sign, but abit blunter.
True…
My god, just look at this fail!
We all know “Satans” would be possessive in that sentence and they forgot the apostrophe!
Grammar is just as blasphemous as these “free thinkers.”
So if you’re free you’re a slave and if you’re not free you’re not a slave?
The Tooth will set you free! Unless it is the tool of Satan, that is… huhuhu… he said “tool”…
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
Right?
beat me to it, damn.
wear that collar baby!!!
“A close minded idealogue is Jesus’s salve!!!”
what a shock!
I’d like to stay holy and pure. Can someone tell me how to react to this?
Don’t go towards the light!
Is that a serious question? If you are already holy and pure because of your belief in God then you just need to act according to your conscience because he has written his laws in your heart.
What if another type God has written its laws in our heart?
No other god has promised to do that.
Are you really that dense, or do you just not get sarcasm?
Do you think I answered the question straight because I thought Mune Pettan wanted to know? There is a small probability of that but that is not really why I answered her question. I could ask, are you really that dense that you didn’t realize but insults achieve nothing.
*wonder what font would be used*
Comic sans.
What if I’m holy and pure for, uhh… different reasons. You know, other than God.
“War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength”
-”Nineteen-Eighty Four” by George Orwell
It’s scary how well it applies here.
Makes no sense?
That’s the point of the slogans. George Orwell wanted to emphasise the hypocrisy and terror of the communist regime in the Soviet Union, and described it pretty well in his novel 1984. People can’t think without their thoughts being monitored, and if they even think of rebelling, they’re immediately whisked away and brainwashed. It’s a terrifying book.
BondFan, what are you doing?
Oops. I made a serious, analytical reply to a troll. My bad.
*squeeze* It’ll be okay.
Meegwetch GBF4518. Didn’t mean to get you in trouble the Daakazauck.
Avis , what are you doing?
I think I will try and find it and read it.
It’s a good book, even if it was required reading in an English class.
1984 is the Good Book?
All books are equal; but some are more equal than others.
That’s an Epic WIN!
Uh oh. Another religion debate thread.
Time to bring out the jesus clicky.
LMAO Qwaz. Nice point.
OT: Has anyone see what the final total was for the last one?
2880!
I wish the church’s name wasn’t so generic. There are 5 New Canaan Baptist Churches within an hour of my house.
Oh, also they seem to have stolen their slogan from Harmony Baptist Church.
Proving once again that hell is going to be a lot more fun than heaven.
the opposite of war isnt peace, its creation!
Pfft…the opposite of war is raw. Sheesh. C’mon now, get it together!
But isn’t the opposite of raw cooked?
Wouldn’t that be burned?
*crosses Avis off of list of people to mooch a dinner from*
I do not burn food. I just think the opposite of raw is burned! :p
How about a happy medium rare.
Old Joke Time:
I was at a State Fair once and saw a sign over a tent that read “Seances $5.00″. I went in and looked around. There was a lady done up in fanciful garb. At first she was smiling and then started laughing. So I hit her. I always like to strike a happy medium.
A well-done medium is rare, anyway.
I tend to like my meat rare. Rooster likes it well done. And life goes on.
If you like rare you get to eat just that much sooner.
And when you go to war, you can basically assume one thing…your goose is cooked! :p
i like cooked goose.
cooked goose = no goose poop
well… maybe some goose poop before goose is cook
both ways… get to create!!!!
la vie boheme
no, the opposite of raw is war
Will they have bounce houses of eternal damnation?
Yea this actually makes sense to Christians….but i can see how this could be viewed differently..
It doesn’t make sense to me and I’m a Christian, it just makes them look like idiots. Wasn’t Jesus himself a free thinker?
I seem to remember something about God giving man free will. Which would lead one to think that free thought went along with that. Funny that.
Sure you’re not thinking of “Free Willy”? Though, if God gave us that as well, no wonder I’m a heathen!
I think we can place the blame squarely on man for that movie!
*Blames men*
Ok, I feel better now.
You mean you blame Man. Specifically Arthur.
Isn’t Free Willy a porn movie?
That’s “freeballing willy”
And I seem to remember something about God never existing. Funny that.
If a religion is going to claim that God gave man free will, then they are not allowed to turn around and say that free thinking is satanic. I was raised in a VERY religious family. I am allowed to point out those oxymorons.
I know how you feel. Ah well, this is just the start of it. The bible is full of contradictions if you real it well
And when you try to untangle religious logic it just becomes a downright mess.
The educated, analytical masses are bad for christianity. Remember the story of Adam and Eve? Eat the “forbidden fruit” from THE TREE OF KNOWLEDGE and all sortsa bad things happen.
I’m sure it’s not the church’s stance on this today, but back in the dark ages, messages like this could be manipulated in any manner of ways to eliminate dissenters. Or anyone else who might call out the church out on it’s hypocrisies, for that matter.
Jesus! What the elf is the church thinking?
Yup, typical Baptist church. Wonder what’s on the Mormon sign just down the street?
Tsk Tsk, Church is such a fail in it’s own meaning.
A couple commenters above have recognized this, but have chosen to be obscure about it. Here’s an explanation:
Historical:
Atheists in the eighteenth century (Europe, esp. England and France) called themselves “freethinkers.” So this sign reads, “Atheists are Satan’s slaves.” So far so good.
Theological:
There is a long tradition in Christian theology, from Paul to St. Augustine to Aquinas to Luther to Calvin, which holds that the only true “freedom” is obedience to God (disobedience to God = sin; Paul was rather adamant that humans are slaves to sin and that we are redeemed–which literally means to be bought back from slavery–by Christ).
Philosophical:
This corresponds to a long tradition in philosophical thought (a tradition which starts with the pre-Christian Greeks–e.g., Plato & Aristotle–and includes such atheists as Rousseau) that most humans act in accordance with their passions and appetites (what the Christian theologian would say is acting in accordance with sin, since our fallen passions & appetites are sinful–keep in mind that the early Church Fathers were very fond of Plato) rather than in accordance with Truth/Good (i.e., God for the Christian; for non-Christian philosophers, some universal good which man can access–or at least can and should *attempt* to access–by reason).
Conclusion:
New Canaan Baptist Church gets the WIN on this one. This might, in fact, be the most theologically and philosophically sound church sign that I’ve ever seen. (Now of course, the church itself may understand this in a slightly less-refined manner, but hey, let’s be charitable–i.e., give the church the benefit of the doubt . . . oh wait, that’s a *Christian* virtue, and one that is contrary to the entire shallow and unreflective ethos of the internet.)
You were doing spiffy up to the last line. At that point you branded yourself a dip.
A cheese dip, actually… Got chips for that?
Yum!
Be charitable. He has to remain true to his understanding of the ethos of the internet.
Do you really have such a low opinion of people?
Your mom’s shallow and unreflective.
The benefit of a doubt is a Christian virtue?
*looks at history*
*looks at other religions & cultures throughout history*
Hmm, nope. Might be common to some Christians, but it’s by no means solely their virtue. Nor is it a virtue of all Christian groups. See the Westboro Baptists.
Thanks for your explanation but I still think they are idiots for putting up that sign. It’s going to be read by many people who do not have the benefit of that knowledge and who interpret it very differently. I live in the UK where church members are encouraged to think for themselves, and thank God we do. I’m very much aware that some churches in America stifle freedom of thought if it doesn’t correspond with the pastor’s own interpretation of the gospel even to the extent of chastising church members for not belonging to the ‘correct’ political party. This sign is IMO one of the worst signs they could display.
All ur shallow and unreflective ethos r belong to us
Ohhhhh… this is an agonizingly ignorant sign. 5 stars.
religion fails
This about sums it up for religion. People who think begin to wonder about the truth of why they believe anything with no give reason. Only reason to believe it in the first place was because someone told you to.
No offense, but I have to say this is a pretty narrow-minded view of religion. Can we please think freely about what religion means…. or are we going to clump everyone who is religious into one stereotype?
I agree with most everyone that this sign is a piece of crap – but that doesn’t mean that all religious people are idiots. Even God is all for free thinking and free will.
P.S. I am not one of those people who will say all atheists or anyone else are idiots either. There are plenty of dumb people on both sides of the fence
Actually with higher intelligence there is a higher probability of being an atheist. Personally I have never met anyone who knows what atheist really means and call himself one, who would be considered and idiot. If you let a intelligent human grow in family which is not religious but not really atheistic either (like mine), where no religious standards are enforced, my bet is on that he or she will grow to be atheistic (like me)
I have given religion much thought… And the idea of a single personal god seems to me to be just stupid. So I looked more into non personal god outside of our universe… so called the creator… that would be possible but highly improbable, but would not have any significance what so ever because what is outside our universe can not be accessed nor measured therefore does not have any meaning.
At another subject, I do not know who thought up the idea about being there only one god. That does not make any sense, Nothing works while being the only copy. The first religions were more observant of our world than the one god people. Nothing on the earth is single everything is in pairs or more. The most noticeable think is in animals. In most cases there is female and male. And then there is several instances of such pairs. Even single sex animals are on the world in groups. There is no single thing that would be only one copy. And therefore even if there is a “creator” of the universe, it would rather be a society (talking metaphorically here and I know that this is based on our society, but I have already stated that nothing outside our universe does not matter we could be just a quantum fluctuation for what we know…)
So my conclusion, you do have to be relatively smart to be an atheist (unless grown into atheism) but you do not have to be intelligent at all to be religious.
Your argument is so flawed it’s insane.
Your personal experience is insufficient for claiming that their is a higher probability of anything. The sample size is way too small.
What ‘seems’ to you is opinion, not fact.
Your argument against a singular G-d might make sense if G-d was a being of this Earth instead of a *supernatural* being. What happens with normal, natural creatures is irrelevant. But even if we consider the “nothing works by itself” argument you’re still ignoring the fact that every living thing on this Earth propagates to continue the existence of the species. But G-d is immortal (at least the monotheistic version of G-d). An immortal being doesn’t need to propagate itself.
So your conclusion is BS.
Furthermore, it doesn’t take any intelligence at all beyond having the capacity for thought to believe *anything*, including believing that there isn’t a G-d. All being an atheist says is that you think there isn’t a G-d the same way being a theist just means you think there is one. Anyone can *think* something.
What takes intelligence is being able to understand and prove things. Believing the First Law of Thermodynamics is true doesn’t prove you’re smart. Being able to understand the First Law of Thermodynamics does.
From Wikipedia’s page on Atheism:
A letter published in Nature in 1998 reported a survey suggesting that belief in a personal god or afterlife was at an all-time low among the members of the U.S. National Academy of Science, only 7.0% of whom believed in a personal god as compared with more than 85% of the general U.S. population.[105] In the same year, Frank Sulloway of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Michael Shermer of California State University conducted a study which found in their polling sample of “credentialed” U.S. adults (12% had Ph.Ds and 62% were college graduates) 64% believed in God, and there was a correlation indicating that religious conviction diminished with education level.[106] An inverse correlation between religiosity and intelligence has been found by 39 studies carried out between 1927 and 2002, according to an article in Mensa Magazine.[107] These findings broadly agree with a 1958 statistical meta-analysis by Professor Michael Argyle of the University of Oxford.
As KC has pointed out there have been MANY studies on the relatonship between intelligence and religious belief. Statisticly the less educated or intelligent a person is the more likely they are to be religious. The inverse is true as well the more intelligent a person is the more likely they are to be non-religious. While obviouly neither is true in every instance it is true far more often then not.
Another nifty little fact 75% of the U.S. population is Christian 75% of the U.S. prison population is Christian. 15% of the U.S. population is Atheist .05% of the U.S. population is theist. Apearently atheists are far less likely to commit crimes as well.
Should have been .05% of the U.S. poulation is Atheist
This is exactly what every fundamentalist believes about everyone who believes differently than they do. “The only reason you don’t agree with me is your own ignorance.”
This argument is stupid not simply because it is purely emotional but because it doesn’t take into account all of the people who change their beliefs. There are theists who become atheists, atheists who become theists, and theists who move from one religion to another (or just theism with no organized religion attached to it).
Who’s forcing all these 20, 30, 60 year-olds to change their beliefs? Hm? Why do atheists become theists for “no reason” and for that matter if there’s no reason to believe why do people change religions at all?
People do think. They just don’t all reach the same conclusion that you did.
Your argument is exactly like that of the people who say that everyone *knows* that G-d exists and atheists just choose to deny it.
i think i broke my neck trying to read this all….
i live in Utah and the only freethinker church (ironic isn’t it?)
is in salt lake….. i dont want to associate w/ other atheists that bad…… i think you guys will be my new freethinking buddies. whadaya say?
i made cookies!
The road to Hell is paved with cookies!
Religion is so adorable!
amen!
Uh oh, somebody thinks they have a free will
where do they get that stuff! they have alway’s got something crazy to say.
I’m wondering this too.
Must’ve misinterpreted the “holy book” again.
Accurate representation of religion
Religion often inflames rather than relieves bigotry and group hatred. Therefore if there is a good God, we should expect him to be opposed to religion…. Wait a sec I think the Christian God is opposed religion.
Jesus proclaims a “Gospel”. The Gospel is “Good News”, not good advice. Advice is a recommendation someone offers us about something we should do. The Gospel is Good News about something already done for us. Religion offers good advice. Jesus offers Good News.
Why did Jesus die publically? Jesus died to, among other things, end all religious sacrifice. (e.g., Ephesians 2:14-15) Through Christ, God pronounced the end of religion in its own language.
Jesus acted and taught like he was replacing every aspect of religion with himself. the temple (where people go to meet with God),
• the sacrifice (that takes away all sin),
• and the priest (who offers the sacrifice to God on our behalf and declares us cleansed from sin).
(e.g., Mark 10:45; John 2:21; 1 Corinthians 11:25).
Jesus calls people to “faith”, never “religion”.
• Faith = trusting someone enough to act on their word.
• Religion = systems of rules, rituals, and routines that people use to get right with God.
So for a man who came to earth to tear down religious institutions and replace with something wholly relationship based Christians sure have built up quite the establishment. The irony is the same as having Che Guevara face on a t-shirt at walmart.
In closing, if your interested I would check out a book called the The End of Religion: Encountering the Subversive Spirituality of Jesus Bruxy Cavey… And as 1 Thessalonians 5:21 says Test everything. Hold on to the good ;P
STFU
this is FAILBLOG not YOURBLOG (which nobody reads)
youre uninteresting and staggeringly petty
Agree.
Well spoken, my friend!
*grabs the ball gag, whips, restraints and fire retardant underthings*
Yoo hoo! Where do you want me your evilness?
oops forgot the pineapple
And the paperweights…
Disreguard my messages below.
rubber dreams
And is it a good thing or a bad thing to be satan´s slave?
Yeah and the paperweights…
Meant to be a reply ro abve…
yay santa!
Oh no! A free thinker is Satan’s Slave! / We’ve got to rescue her!
What happened to my colon? :/
Worked there. *bangs side of computer*
and a Cheap thinker?
Does anybody know where this picture was taken? I would love to pose in front of it.
Use photoshop, ☺
Trying out the open and honest, say what you mean approach?
More like doctrine fail.
Conform…do as I’ve said or burn in hell.
This is why I don’t have religion in my life.
So basically you are saying that you know better than God. Oh, man, I’d better fall down and worship you! (NOT!)
You hate the fact that God, who created you, has a right to judge you and judge His Creation. He’s the one who put down the rules. You, who have only been around for a few decades (if that), claim to know more than millions of people who came before you who were ten times more intelligent than you.
So why is “do as I have said” such a terrible choice? I guess you’d rather burn in Hell than obey a few simple commands that are only intended to make your life better? You’d rather burn in Hell than ask for forgiveness and salvation? You’re weird.
Ok, KiraJenLove. Here’s the deal. Prove to me that your god is the ‘true God,’ and that your way is the ‘true Way,’ and I will follow it. So far nobody has done that. Plenty of Christians will say “brother, you need to get saved!” as if this were common knowledge or something. None of them really have any proof to back up their claims. KiraJenLove, have you ever asked yourself if you were born into the right religion? You may be following the “wrong way,” as, according to you, many many people in the world are doing, with no chance of ever knowing the truth.
Hmm.. atleast i can say that is definately NOT photoshopped.
Believe it or not these people are allowed to have children too.. Personally I think they should all be sterilized..
Don’t be too much extreme. Don ‘t be as they do
The same could be said about people who admit they raise their children as atheists – destroying their childrens’ souls and guaranteeing them a spot in Hell – instead of loving them enough to put what’s best for their children above their own selfish beliefs. If you must err, err on the side of God.
Yes, well, er, but, Kira–
Which god????
A fine summary!
Religion would be okay if it wasn’t for the zealots
Like in Montreal: “Sin is your ticket to hell” in big red letters on a church at the edge of a bridge.
No it is “The reward of your sin is HELL”
I like rewards.
“A free thinker is Satan’s slave”. Isn’t that a bit like saying “The Devil makes work for idle hands”?
No, they’re saying that atheists are pitiable pawns of the Evildoer.
It’s sort of a “I know you are, but what am I?” statement because church-goers–the “sheep”–are the known prey of priesters, reverends, preachermen, pastors, rabbis, mullahs, shamans, high holy poobahs, monks, and grifters everywhere.
AHH Christian D-O-M-I-N-A-T-I-O-N by fear of reconsidering all things to be sure what we think is truth…
I don’t absolutely mean that religion is a lie, i deplore the fear they create to keep their believers. And the fact they had hidden facts, like some pedophile priests for decades… Those who say they tell the truth don’t always say the truth
Be critical! (yeah i suggest you the opposite of what says the picture)
Hey as long as im not breaking any of the 10 commandments I can think w/e the hell I want.
Ah good old fashion ignorance and hate, it warms my heart.
I see no FAIL here.
I agree, stabby. I don’t see any fail here either – just the Truth. The responses from the other commenters here proves it.
The FAIL is that the church is saying 1) anyone who thinks for themselves is going to Hell and 2) Christians don’t think for themselves.
If anything several people here are agreeing with the sign by arguing that you have to be brainwashed into being religious.
Seems pretty accurate for the Baptists I have to put up with.
If Heaven is full of zealots and sheep, I’d rather go to Hell.
i am the Great Satan and all you free thinkers are my Slaves, forever more! hehe
as a christian this is kinda funny. Free thinkers are slaves wtf. Maybe they are referring to people who think anything goes. ie. Raping children is okay, or killing someone is not a big deal, or cheating on your wife is also okay and hating yourself and others is perfectly normal.
Or stabbing a homeless man for his box or sleeping with thirty hookers or pissing on the Cross of Jesus or *starts rambling on about sins8
Except, you know, even Satanists are against raping children….
nice!
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Well that’s your cross to bear.
Atheists: We are Satan’s slaves.
Does that mean Agnostics are just part time?
Agnostics are slaves to know it alls because we have to spend all our lives trying to convince them to get off their high horse, stop fighting and do something constructive in this world.
But I want my Sky Cake, and I don’t want him to have any!……..
Big sign failuer, cause it was written that God gave us the FREEDOM to CHOOSE!
TRUTH WIN
Its things like this that make me glad I’m not a christian anymore…
OMG! I just saw this sign on my way to work and thought I read it wrong! LOL!
I see no failure here.
Free Thinker= Someone who thinks WITHOUT a price to pay!
Sorry Jo Zee- the cost for thoughts was established earlier in the thread.
I’m sorry, did I make a wrong turn? I seem to be back in the dark ages.
A controlled thinker is the church’s slave
i live in friggin new canaan!!!! OMG THERE IS NO BAPTIST CHURCH HERE!!!!!!
well if you read that and still go in then you definitely belong.
One of the reasons I’m glad I don’t live below the Manson-Nixon line any more. Yes I know they are everywhere but the ignorance and idiocy seem much thicker, obvious and unashamed.
dear sirs,
I wish you all to know that I am a Christian, and we don’t all think that. That is rather extreme and not biblical…
thank you
goodnight.
Are women allowed to know this, or is it a secret?
This is going on FSTDT.
This is the reason I am an atheist (and will raise my kids as atheists).
That’s Baptists for you. Speaking and spreading fear and doubt, now that’s Satan’s will. This is proff of why religion is bad.
my way of making photos ;] thumbs up
omg if they believe this then they are seriously stupid
ffs
This is not funny… it’s creepy…
wah!
run baby, run
the baptits are out there
run!
If you can think for yourself, you’d never follow any jesus based faith. There’s a reason he’s referred to as a shepherd and followers referred to as a flock…
*cough* cult *cough*
The sign is RIGHT. The Bible says you are a slave to whom you obey. A “free thinker” is nothing of the kind – they are only regurgitating the thoughts of others – those who reject God. And those who reject God are the servants of Satan, whether they know it or not.
So who is the “prime mover” of atheism? Are these mysterious “others” that atheists regurgitate the thoughts of (ew, messy) the First Order Atheists? The Atheist Valinor? Are they blessed with long life? Inquiring minds want to know!
failblog deletes comments? really? Thats lame.
if free thinkers are the slaves of the devil. then, all of man that is on the side of jesus must specially be retarded. free thinkers are the ones that discover an item, question reality, and work toward something thats not the norm! id rather be satans slave while living and then ask jesus to forgive me and send me to heaven than to be somebody im not.
Religion is the opiate of the people
besides didnt jesus say the truth shall make free? wait a free person cant think free? lmao
hell was invented in the midle ages there is no mention of it in the sriptures of the old testament
see herehttp://englishatheist.org/indexz26.shtml
The horned Baptists! Say isn’t that a college football team?
No, you thinking of the horned rapists.
I get it! The apostrophe is missing!
Oh WOW! I actually know the real story behind this (I’m friends with the girl whose dad was the inspiration for the sign). XD
So what’s the story?
Well, at least they’re not generalising. Anyone know the guy?
Back in the day cults were subtle when they were trying to indoctrinate you…
At least free thinkers are normally more considerate, most wouldn’t dare do anything so ridicules
Interesting… God created us with minds capable of contemplating things such as calculus, quantum physics, biology, and all advanced forms of logic, and yet he will punish us for eternity if we dare to use them. Perhaps we should have stayed in the dark ages. Damn renaissance!
My sides are hurting from reading the comments! Fruitcake. No price to pay. 999 You guys are killin’ me. Uh-oh.
Well I know the person that took this… Welcome to Jasper Alabama. Where just around every corner you have gems like this ;P
It’s a win. It shows exactly how stupid religious people are.
666 is wrong, the bible is wrong.
Its 616….
For thousands on years the bible has been printed wrongly… only recently did they find dead sea scrolls stating the number of the beast is 616.
Can you give a link to this, very very interesting!
Religion is like a mental illness…
Actually, “religion” is both cure/cause for mental illness, I know this from experience!
Done a bit of learning about psychosis and while religion can often be a trigger for it, the issue of mental illness is actually quite distinct from the issue of spirituality!
Hummm so I’m a slave.
Or should I stand in front of the church and yell,
“FREE AT LAST FREE AT LAST!”
and…
“LET MY PEOPLE GO!”
Amen brother! Join hands and let us scream together with Christ at our side lmfao! God bless you mate, for your will of liberation!
i believe that’s a fail
This is a hook to catch the church’s slave hahaha!
A follower of Christ is in fact the epitome of free thinking!
That’s such an easy joke I won’t even bother.
Please do bother, I have no idea what you mean, but I want to know!
One day this world will be free of you fleshies and your aimless bickering.
Didn’t Big Brother in George Orwell’s book 1984 say ‘Freedom is Slavery’
this site has a lot of advertising… epic fail.
yes my master O_O
666 is a medieval typo. 616 is the true number of the beast.
666 is the fax number of the beast.