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I laughed so hard when i read this, i completely didn’t see it until now. What i did see was the American Governments war on terror glorified tho which as a Canadian makes me sick. Opposing Government wanting mining rights to a place that ain’t theirs.
I love this. I saw the movie and the whole time I was like this is Pocahontis. Love it
I heard it was like an adult version of Fern Gully
ORLY? whodathunkit?
Special effects wise, Avatar was the bomb but it’s sad that people only look at how awesome it is because of the special effects. There’s more to a movie than that, an original plot would be nice.
You’ve missed the point. It was a beautifully crafted movie. The story is old. White man comes to ‘where ever’ to destroy the original life and mother earth, but is won over by what’s right and true love. Nothing to do with Pocahantos.
LOL! just like mad-libs!
Don’t you think that Pocahontas has a few pluses on Avatar for the musical aspect? Its a classic, “Colors of the Wind”, “Just around the Riverbend” anyone? Even so, everyone says that Avatar is a great movie in its own right, don’t you mean the application of technology was great. It probably could be transcribed to a “Dora the Explorer” episode, but everyone would be just as amused with the 3-D aspect. Whoopee, we are all easily distracted.
Yeah but in Pocahontas John Smith has to return to England….
Doesn’t anyone realize that this was the purpose of Avatar? It’s not a fail if the intentionally did this.
how the hell do you have so comments? xDDDDD
Jesus!
BUT, the same plot… maybe a hundred years starting now, Pocahontas will be replaced to AVATAR.
It’s definitely not observation win, as it involves only paying attention to the observations that confirm his hypothesis, and ignoring or distorting the ones that don’t. For instance, the endings are actually quite different — in Pocahontas, John has to return to England so they can save his life, and they _don’t_ end up together, unlike in Avatar. This is bad observation and bad science. Honestly? They are similar in many respects, as they tell the same sort of story and thus use some of the same tropes and plot elements. But Avatar isn’t the exact carbon-copy of Pocahontas this makes it out to be.
Also, I hate to say it, but the graphics really weren’t that impressive. Some of the high-end games today are pretty close to it, and what edges it does have are much less amazing when you consider that games have to be rendered in real-time on a single machine, while the movie was rendered in advance on a blade server. Where it really excels was the integration of CGI and live action — I have never seen it done quite so seamlessly. The one place I can remember where I could really see where one ended and the other began during their interaction was during the climactic battle, in which, if you look closely, it’s possible to tell when some of the Banshee/Ikran heads turn from CGI to animatronic models to interact with (eat) the humans.
Also, no, Pocahontas doesn’t have the edge over Avatar in music. Avatar had an amazing soundtrack — just because it isn’t packed with actual vocal songs doesn’t mean it’s not good.
thanks nezumi, I’ve not seen avatar yet and you have told me the ending, you are an epic fail.
“Avatar” does have an amazing soundtrack… because it has the same soundtrack as “Enemy at the Gates.” I guess James Horner couldn’t come up with anything new.
It’s just a joke no need to take it so seriously
Saw it, disliked it, thought it was similar.. Now I know why!
Lo de épico no lo diría, no llena las espectivas para ser un film épico, como lo fue TITANIC y no este bizarro…
I enjoyed the movie, for what it is. CGI fest + explosions + interesting soundtrack. Really, there are many potential historical allegories this could be linked to. (Britain in Infia, Belgium in the Congo, et cetra.)
hey theres another film about the same plot as avatar…..i saw it when i was a kid…..i remember theres a men who was in the forest and a company was trying to make a supermarket something like that with big machines but in the forest was already own by faires …….so the faires turn the man to a tiny size and they show them all…..(same as avatar)…..i want to know the name of the movie please…thank u very much for reading
Ferngully?
LIKE, SRSLY?!?! o3o Omg…I knew about the thing about the romantic thing and the thing about invading the place where the…Avatars or whatever live (I never watched the movie so bear with me) and blaaah and how Avatar was like Pocahontas.
But I never knew…the DETAILS that Avatar has that is exactly the same as Pocahontas. Dear god =3=
Damn….there are definitely some things you are absolutely misconsidering in this thread:
1) This is a typical story about imperialism. Arrogant, technical superior folks go into unknown territory, most of them to find treasure. If there are indigenous folks in their way they get eliminated. This is the story of mankind in the last couple of hundred years! Add some cheesy romance with one person of each side and you got the perfect hollywood story. I bet there are hundreds of similar stories used in movies.
2) James Cameron is the director of the movie, not the story writer. How many directors create the stories of the movie on their own? Almost none. Directors receive stories and try to make something good out of them. Avatar succeeded there in my opinion. Pocahontas sucked.
And by the way: Did anyone call Peter Jackson a copycat for making Lord of the Rings? Or Danny Boyle for Trainspotting? This list of great movies with a taken story could be endless…
3) There are several revolutionary ideas realized in Avatar, the revolutionary animations are only the sugar on top. For example was the language of the aliens developed during 4 years and is completely usable with grammatical rules and everything. The idea with the huge neuronal net across the whole planet Pandorra and the interaction between folra and fauna is great. The little details that describe this culture are thought through and are amazing to watch.
4) Let’s consider this was a remake of Pocahontas (which is far exaggerated I think): If someone manages to make a crappy movie (Pocahontas is considered to be the worst Disney Masterworks ever) into something that feels so awesome when you watch it, I think that’s quite an accomplishment!
It’s a joke again why take it so seriously :S
Not takin’ it as seriously as you think.
We just had this discussion at lunch with some work collegues. One guy referred to this thread (sent me the link), saying this is the reason why this movie is a fail. I HAD TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT ^^.
Okay i must admit, I like discussions very much.
Btw: Okay, Cameron may have written the story……but that just proves he is even less of a silly copycat.
@chel: if no one took it a little seriously, then this discussion would even more boring and all about rofl, looooool and such repetitive statements as your “dude, don’t take it so seriously ….”. Why discussing anything anyways? ;P
It WAS written by James Cameron. And hasn’t anyone seen Dances with Wolves!?
Movies aren’t about the words that summarize the story, they’re about how the story is told. And Avatar has told the ‘oppressor messiah’ story better than anyone. Even Dances with Wolves.
I agree on points 3 and 4
EXACTLY
I liked the music for Pocahontas though.
Well said friend.
I always hoped this movie would raise rainforest awareness.
omg just after I saw Avatar I actually joked with my friends of how much it’s like Pocahontas and Fern Gully!!!! WE WERE RIGHT!
Unobtainium is fom the tv show “The Amazing Extrodinary Friends” final episode. TRUE.
Complete utter FAIL! Firstly, Jake isn’t attacked by what’s his name. Secondly he isn’t sentanced to death, just bound. Third the ‘settelers’ attack and drive of the ‘indains’ before they attack again and are brought to justice. 4th, nature isn’t connected through the ‘circle of life’ its more pyschail than that. 5th, the ubonatium isn’t Na’vi’s. Its just there.
So what if the plot was similar to effin pochahontas. it was still a great movie over all. No one seemes to be getting the damn message the movie was sending in the first place.
Hahaha! AWESOME dude…. that’s just so damn true!
Mona Lisa isnt an original idea for painting. Just a smiling girl.
Still it’s the most precious artifact in Louvre.
Suck on it!
FAIL?? this is an epic WIN xD
Nice…I think folks need to relax and make fun of the whole concept more. I like all the spoofs that have been popping up, like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N15ok23x6Rk . I wish I could get my friends to paint themselves blue.
I new this from seeing the previews. i predicted the entire movie, to the amazement of my friends who some how grew up without ever seeing the disney pocohontas (all of them assumed it was a disney chick flick for girls only). Only one change tho, the tree of souls didn’t change netyri’s views of jake, but instead the little seeds that he tried to swat away, which relates to the maple leaves that swirled around john smith
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haha xD awesome
Recycling is good for anything
actually, i was thinking “dances with wolves” more than “pocahontas,” but yeah, that works, too. the only thing is that what’s-her-name in “avatar” is not engaged to what’s-his-name. what’s-his-name is her brother! but yeah – old story nonetheless. cool dragons, though. damn good cgi. it’s bad, but it’s good.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, YES people we know…. Fern Gully! Pocahontas! Dances With Wolves! OMFG! Avatar was first written in 1992. Fern Gully came out in like 1994. Fern Gully was most likely written around 1992/1993. I’m not saying the POSSIBILITY doesn’t exist that James Cameron borrowed an idea or two, but I do find it unlikely (why would James Cameron go see a shit movie like Fern Gully?). Pocahontas was released in 1995, implying early preproduction work beginning around 1993, if not earlier. Cameron would have been more likely to see this one, but then again, by this time he’d pretty much finished the script and was searching for studios to finance its production (although he later postponed it for the technology available to catch up with his vision). Dances With Wolves came out a few years before Avatar was written, but the similarities are very vague. In any case, what James Cameron did on Avatar required a lot more creativity and effort than was put into those first two movies (I haven’t seen the third), such as creating a whole language, entirely new plants and wildlife, the Tsahaylu connection with other life forms the Na’vi can achieve… There are elements in common, but Avatar has more going for it than at least two of those movies.
wow, im showing this to every avatar junkie i see
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boy isn’t James cameron the original and creative film making genius artist everyone in hollywood says he is. FAIL, hes actually a total douche.
epic win
Take the beating Avatards!!!
hahahaha! pretty bad when you have to steal s**t from “DISNEY” to make a movie
Last.
FULL OF WIN!
WHY SO MANY COMMENTS????
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Plot fail? Both these movies made a bagillion. The plot is the true gold/unobtanium mine!
Fail….. But I have to say I liked the movie.
Oke, the story is cheese, but the movie is a classic WIN!
Certainly in 3D
Oh so looks like everybody’s telling that they’ve all watch avatar and pocahontas, sure… am i missing something?
All of you Tim Burton bashing nimrods are obviously:
A> Under the age of 20
B> Total tools with no sense of imagination
C> Wannabe movie critics
or
D> Soulless blackholes that are wastes of space whose opinions will never matter to anyone important.
Get over yourselves, and let the man make his movies.
;>)
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dune, dances with wolves, pocahontas, fern gully, terminator, call me joe, battle for tera its unoriginal. face it. dune is litterall the exact same the only difference being that its an old movie with s**tty cg. they even named the precious metal unobtanium.
Anyone who didn’t catch on to the fact that it was pocahontas 9000 like 20 minutes into the movie should have their head checked. The only thing Cameron did elevated the “Europeans are all evil” feel a little bit and extend it to the entire race (who are primarily white on the human side btw.)
The main character’s name is John Smith?? HE IS NUMBER FOUR!
OMG
very funny post!
Oh my good LORD.
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I don’t know what to say. Sure, I knew Avatar was like Pocahontas but GEEZ, I never really looked into all the little details. Seriously all that’s going through my mind now is “wtf”… look, even his initials are the same: J.S.
I feel so conflicted.
ahahha
LOL topic
that is the funniest thing, and the truest thing that has been said about avatar!!!! hahaa