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  1. lakshasa says:

    FIRST! it is the good news!

  2. Wormulon says:

    I’m so happy…

  3. Bo says:

    A friend of mine is a Satanist. And they are really gentle people. But due to some nutcases who call themselves Satanists and due to the Christian Crusade, everybody thinks they worship the devil.

    • Bo says:

      Christianity is Real, would be a good news fail
      LOL

    • Ryan Waxx says:

      Yeah, those Satanists who worship the devil are almost as annoying as those Christians who believe in god…

      • Gorgonzola says:

        Most organized religion (or non-organized for that matter) is annoying.

      • rojukene says:

        By the way, most Satanists actually do NOT worship Satan, if we’re talking about the LaVey sect. Belief in the existence of God or Satan is irrelevant. If you’d read the Satanic Bible, you’d see that the major principles put down there apply to most people nowadays. It teaches that the most important person is yourself, you should love and protect those who are important to you and that animals and kids are to be protected.

        Doesn’t sound bad to me…

        • Skary says:

          the problem is in the name though, cristians here satanism and assume it has to do with the person satan not the original meaning of the word (bible vesrion) being one who thinks them selves above God.

          • Thiefree says:

            No, Satan is Hebrew for ‘accuser’. It originated in the Abrahamic faiths to refer to an angel of God.

            • Avis says:

              And Lucifer means “light-bringer” or something to that effect. And (according to the bible) was an angel.
              No, I haven’t yet read all the comments. If this is a repeat, my apologies.

              • olm says:

                No, Lucifer is not in the bible. Not the original one. Only the King James version has the name “Lucifer,” changing what was a passage to a babylonian king to a fallen angel. The babylonian king was named after the planet “Venus,” which was believed to be the “Heralder of the sun.”

                Lucifer is latin. Why would latin be in a hebrew/greek bible?

                http://www.lds-mormon.com/lucifer.shtml

                A small referrence, and I’m not mormon. It just covers in full what I have researched, overall. If you don’t find it creditable, I’d suggest researching it in full on your own.. actually I suggest that, anyways. And Thiefree is right. “HaSatan(The accuser)” is more so the angel in opposition of God.

                This was not ment to be offensive, but rather informative.

            • Spazmataz says:

              No, satan is santa for the hard of spelling. He was invented by Coca-Cola to distract from their worldwide evil doings.

            • Bo says:

              Yes it means accuser. It also means opponent. Satanists oppose to the hypocrisy of the church. They don’t carry hatred towards all christians, though that’s often thought.
              My satanist friend I was telling about actually has a christian friend. I find it very amusing.

            • crimshaid says:

              Also, it originates as “shaitan” which is Arabic for enemy.

          • David says:

            The name isnèt a problem. It keeps the slower people you would not want to associate with at a distance.

        • Ryan Waxx says:

          Then call yourself an Atheist. At least the name would reflect the belief.

        • stevie w says:

          “most Satanists actually do NOT worship Satan” and sadly ..
          most Christians actually do NOT worship Christ. They just want a free ticket out of hell, so they make an appearance once a week. Most …well, many Christians hear such a weak, twisted, watered-down Gospel that God’s word has no power in their lives; living just like the rest of the world. If God is real, and God dwells inside you, as Christians believe, DANG IT, YOU’RE GONNA BE CHANGED !!

          I thought LaVey wrote that infernal text which said, “Do as thou will, shall be the entirety of the Law”. Do whatever the BLEEP you want, no rules, no consequences ………..for NOW. Don’t think one bit about the day of reckoning.

          If there is a good God, He would want us to be good and avoid evil /sin.

          • ErickB says:

            I want to be good. But I just can’t stop touching myself. :D

          • cicili says:

            SoapBox, anyone?

          • rojukene says:

            The difference is that christians are actually SUPPOSED to believe in the Trinity. and all the rest.

            By the way, it was Aleister Crowley who said “Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law,” not LaVey, though the latter was greatly influenced by Crowley. Satanists also believe that this life is the only one we have, i.e. no afterlife, so we should live it to the fullest.

            There are also the 11 Satanic Commandments:

            1. Do not give opinion or advice unless you are asked.
            2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
            3. When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
            4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
            5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
            6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.
            7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
            8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
            9. Do not harm little children.
            10. Do not kill non-human animals unless attacked or for your food.
            11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.

            Simple enough.

          • Mike says:

            “If there is a good God, He would want us to be good and avoid evil /sin.”

            If God wants us to avoid evil/sin, then either he is impotent or stupid, since for an omnipotent being, there are simple ways of doing that: he could have his rules appear scrolled across the sky every day, give us a little auditory warning every time we are about to sin, etc.

            The only rational explanation is that, if there is a God at all, he wants us to exercise our own free will without his interference, for whatever reason.

            • TMI Service says:

              arguments based on the foundation of humanly constructed rationales to explain the nature of a “G-d” that is prior to all constructed reason = fail

          • David says:

            Your view of the universe totally eliminates the universe. FAIL.

            That is not what LaVey wrote, Professor.

          • Splifford says:

            Without evil there could be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometimes.

        • Helena Handbasket says:

          My cat’s breath smells like cat food.

      • Gothenem says:

        In Soviet Russia, Satan worships You!

    • Tower says:

      Let’s all feel sorry for the misunderstood Satanists. I can’t imagine how these gentle people could possibly be associated with the worship of the devil.

    • mattyd says:

      “everybody thinks they worship the devil”…

      Bo, isn’t that why they are called SATANists? Because they worship satan/devil? obviousness fail.

      • Easter Bunny says:

        Satanism can refer to a number of belief systems depending on the user and context. The word, in basic context, can refer to the worship of the Christian devil, thus being a Christian denomination or the left hand path belief system founded by Anton LaVeyan. It is often the practice of any given Satanist not to refer to themselves with a hyphenated prefix. Each “type” of Satanist will usually refer to themselves only as Satanists. Theistic Satanism, also called Spiritual or Traditional Satanism, is the worship of Satan, and consists of several viewpoints and groups. One group that falls under the definition of Theistic Satanism are called “reverse Christians”; this is sometimes used as a disparaging term by other theistic Satanists, and embraced to a lesser or greater extent by the groups given this label. Groups called “Reverse Christian” are said to practice what Christians claim Satanists do, and worship the enemy of Christ and God. Some other groups of Theistic Satanists do not accept the Bible as depicting the true Satan to the same degree. The Spiritual Satanists however see Satan as a god that looks just like any other human, but as with all religions, is not uniform throughout all believers. While there are those who view Satan as a human-like entity, there are those who accept the ancient Roman image of Lucifer, and even those who imagine him as the image of the Greek god Pan. Spiritual Satanists tend to focus their time on meditation and self expansion. Their beliefs have nothing to do with Christianity or the Bible, and their view on Satanism.

        LaVeyan Satanists are technically Atheists and Agnostics, and believe that Satan is a metaphor that represents the natural urges of mankind. The term LaVeyan Satanist or symbolic Satanist, is used by other Satanists to refer to supporters of the writings of Church of Satan founder Anton Szandor LaVey and successors such as Peter H. Gilmore. Use of the word Satanism in this context, according to religioustolerance.org, refers to a “small religious group that is unrelated to any other faith, and whose members feel free to satisfy their urges responsibly, exhibit kindness to their friends, and attack their enemies.Modern Satanism is the observance and practice of Satanic religious beliefs, philosophies and customs. In this interpretation of Satanism, the Satanist does not worship Satan in the theistic sense, but is an adversary to all spiritual creeds, espousing hedonism, materialism, Randian Objectivism, antinomianism, rational egoism, individualism, suitheism, Nietzschean and some Crowleyan philosophy and anti-theism. Modern Satanists are also sometimes referred to as symbolic Satanists.

        Hop this helps any confusion.

      • revocat says:

        ummm actually i am a satanist and i do not worship the devil

    • Thiefree says:

      Did you ever read Alice through the Looking Glass? She meets Humpty Dumpty who starts waffling on about how he can use words to mean whatever he wants. It illustrates that language can’t really function that way, and that words need agreed definitions to be of any use.

      Why would people use the word Satanism if they don’t mean follower of Satan?

      No disrespect intended to your friend, of course. I just don’t know enough about the subject.

      • Skary says:

        the problem being that you cannot get a large amount of people to agree on anything yet alone letting them select the deffinition of a word. the uneducated change word meanings everyday, or worse make up words that eventually become common place and get put into a dictionary. websites like urbandictionary.com are dedicated to speading and helping people slang. when we as a populus should rise against the destrution of our verbage.

        • Loz says:

          What’s the definition of ‘deffinition’?

        • Ryan Waxx says:

          Sorry to interrupt a great “what is is?” rant, but I think large amounts of people already agree that Satanism has something to do with Satan. The fact that the Satanists themselves are not a part of that group says more about them than it does about everyone else.

          • darqmann says:

            Balls!!

            That’s like saying that since most Americans think that all Muslims are Baby eating monsters with lazers under their moustaches, that it must be true and that what the group believes about itself is irrelevant.

            Truth by consensus leads to a purely mutable truth forged by those who are th loudest.

            • mattyd says:

              Actually it has more to do with how they label themselves. If Muslims called THEMSELVES “baby eating monsters” but said “we don’t eat babies…” then you’d have the same irony.

              • Tom Trifik says:

                If you really want to know, just ask the next Muslim you meet,

                “So, tell me, is it true that you no longer are eating babies?”

            • Thiefree says:

              That’s a ludicrous comparison. Linguistic truth by consensus is the only way it’s ever been done, otherwise language couldn’t have evolved. If the word Muslim grew to have negative connotations, it would be in much the same place as Pagan. Meanings are added, lost, and changed, in words all the time.

              • darqmann says:

                Ah but in this case we are talking about a proper label applied to a group by the members of that group.

                Satanist does not mean devil worshipper no matter how many non Satanists believe that its does, in very much the same way Muslim does not mean suicide bombing loon no matter how many non Muslims believe it does.

                Although perhaps there is regional variation in dictionary definition, for example I refuse to use an American dictionary to define the word Satanism because of the countries fundamentalist Christian leanings

                • Loz says:

                  American dictionary? *shudders* ;)

                  • Avis says:

                    Terrifying thought, no?

                    • ErickB says:

                      So go use the googles! Satanism does refer to to those who worship the devil. It may not be the only interpretation, but it is one. Enough whining about it.

                      • ErickB says:

                        damn wrong comment … that was for darqmann ^^^

                      • Avis says:

                        I was not whining about the interpretation of Satanism. I was pointing out (agreeing, rather) that the American Dictionary is lacking.

                        • ErickB says:

                          Not you little birdie :)

                          Darqmann you argue against the perversion of truth by consensus, then please tell where you get your truth from if not by consensus of others who think like you. Or more simply you take the facts that you prefer and fit them to your ideas. Saying an American can not define Satanism is about as intelligent as saying all Satanist worship Satan. You can’t have it both ways.if not by consensus of others who think like you. The internet is not American or a consensus. Go Googles and visit wiki as Fuzz did and you will see what I mean. My point was that you are just as wrong to say that Satanism does not refer to the worship of Satan as is the person who says all Satanist worship satan.

                      • darqmann says:

                        Did you not read the above comment?

                        Asking an American to define Satanism is like asking a Communist to define Capitalism.

                        Besides, trusting on-line knowledge is the embodiment of the perversion of truth by consensus.

                        as an example would anyone like to define ‘hairy bush fruit’ for me?

                        • Loz says:

                          *googles*
                          ;)

                        • Dragonwriter says:

                          Okay…according to the Oxford English Dictionary:

                          Satanism:
                          1. A satanic or diabolical disposition, doctrine, spirit, or contrivance.
                          2. The characteristics of the ‘Satanic school’.
                          3. The worship of Satan, alleged to have been practised in France in the latter part of the 19th century; the principles and rites of the Satanists.

                          The first time the third definition appeared in English was in 1896.

                        • TMI Service says:

                          but vide supra, “Levayian Satanism”

                        • darqmann says:

                          And you think that’s old? besides it is deliberately limited to a time period and was only alleged to have been practised.

                          Try again.

                        • darqmann says:

                          I’m not sure if my last reply stuck here so I’ll try again.

                          The ‘Oxford English’ Being a dictionary of quality has deliberately limited the scope of the third definintion to a time period and a geographical region and have very rightly suggested that the practise was only alleged. 3 is only a speculative definition, besides which dou you really consider 1896 to be anything but modern?

                        • ErickB says:

                          *commits seppuku for failing to comment on the proper comment*

                        • darqmann says:

                          my comments are lost :(

                        • Dragonwriter says:

                          Wow. Lots and lots of misinterpretations of my intentions here.

                          I made no statements as to the legitimacy of the definition. I merely offered it as a counter-argument to the claims made that “American dictionaries” were the only ones with that definition.

                          The definition exists. It exists outside of “American dictionaries”. It is no less reductive in and English dictionary than it is in an American one. Deal with it.

                          And, just as an aside, anything written after 1660 is, in my estimation, modern. I made no claims about the date, either, but merely offered it as information.

                        • Dragonwriter says:

                          *sneaks into above post and steals the extra “d”*

                          I’m gonna need that later. :p

                        • coyote says:

                          Oh God above (like that bit), another blanket opinion of Americans.

                  • thepowerofblue says:

                    American dictionary…like an English dctionary, but with less u’s. (And judging by international test scores, less use as well.)

            • Ryan Waxx says:

              And maybe if it was called called “LazerMoustacheism” instead of Islam, then people might tend to think that. The difference between us is that in that case you would spend 5 hours pondering why.

              • darqmann says:

                Ok,

                Buddhism doesn’t involve worshipping the Buddha but instead understanding the aims and teachings.

                In a similar way the character of Satan is not deified by Satanist more Satan’s attitude to god and the self is aspired to.

                • darqmann says:

                  In fact, thinking more about it, it would appear that the meaning of -ism is in question here.

                  Marxists are not Worshippers of Karl Marx.

                  Taoists.. well there wasn’t a character called Tao.

                  I’d also imagine that if there were such a thing as a Christist that it would be distinct in definition to a Christian.

                • ErickB says:

                  You are not a Satan loving Satanist! Cease and desist your propaganda and lies! Satan relishes in his evilness and will not have you diminishing his name and his hard works with your whineyness!

                • TMI Service says:

                  Good analogy, darqmann.
                  .
                  I am a postmodern Buddhist and meditation teacher. I do not “worship” the Buddha. There are forms of Buddhism, however, where one could properly suggest that their practitioners do (e.g., Pure Land Buddhims, a.k.a. Amidism — “worship” of Amida Buddha). To his mind, though, in such cases “Buddha” has effectively become a poetic name for “Reality.”
                  .
                  It would take too long to describe adequately here, but I very much think that is what happens over and over with much of language, and especially the language of human spirituality. Words originally connected with an experiential understanding of teachings (especially teachings about practices, e.g., meditation), slide over into use as names for metaphysical “things.”

    • stumpmasterX says:

      I am a satanist myself. We are-for the most part- a LOT more tolerant and understanding then christians and all other religions.

    • abi says:

      Satin is soft on the skin, so that should make sense.

    • David says:

      Completely understandable to assume that if only for a short time. After all, fictitious Christian propaganda was made to be believed.

      That said, I am NOT gentle! Not all the time. Which is rather one of the main points. Sheep are gentle, people are deeper than this.

  4. Beren says:

    I’d just like to confirm for anyone not in the know – Southern Suburbs, they are south.

  5. Loz says:

    Oh shit, the secret is out. I’d better go into hiding.
    *stuffs black cape in the cupboard and removes upside-down crosses from the wall*

  6. Rene says:

    My, that is good news!

  7. slimshammy says:

    Why is REAL the most stressed word in the sentence?

  8. failure says:

    photoshop FAIL. It’s way too obvious. At least capitalize your article title if you’re going to try to trick us.

  9. mtho says:

    can please someone explain me why 2 + 3 is 5 and not 4 or 6? thx!!

  10. boo! says:

    terrible photardshop

  11. Jason says:

    “Good news, everyone!”

  12. duott says:

    Good news : )

  13. Bealzes Bud says:

    Since I am a Satanist (LaVeyan/Modern), I could have told you that it’s real…

  14. DetailsDetails says:

    Why is this a fail? There ARE people who worship Satan, whether you believe Satan exists are not. Satanism as a “religion” exists and is real. It may not be TRUE but it is real just as any other religion like Atheism.

    • darqmann says:

      Atheism isn’t a religion.

      and the fail was that the papers layout suggests that Satanism’s existence is ‘Good News’ not the statement in of itself.

      • TMI Service says:

        Depends on your use of the word “religion.” I think it’s useful to remember that everyone has a working map of how the world works, and a sense for what is ethical. And that meets many scholars’ definition of religion — a worldview + an ethos. One can obviously argue for applying the term only to cultural traditions that include certain institutions and ritual forms and set practices, etc., but, to my mind, it is fair to suggest that everyone has a religion, be it (for instance) theistic or anti-theistic.

        • Dragonwriter says:

          Plus, atheists can be just as obnoxious and proselytizing as the fundie Christians can. Those atheists tend to give the rest of us a bad rep…

          • ErickB says:

            I concur. Atheist are just as religious about their non-belief as scientist are about their facts. And I have spoken with many who are just as ignorant / intolerantof other ‘religions’ as others.

      • Jorgisven says:

        Atheism fail. Atheism CAN be a religion, but it doesn’t have to be, and you can be a practicing atheist, meaning one who preaches atheism. Technically, it’s the lack of faith in a god, a-against or without, theos -god. Godless. Don’t get it confused with irreligious.

        Also, no one’s mentioned this paper is from South Africa…(although totally irrelevant).

    • Gorgonzola says:

      Getting the point fail

    • Gothenem says:

      It should be pointed out that Christians SHOULD say that Satanism is real, otherwise they are stating that the “Bad Guy” in their Holy Text doesn’t really exist, thus part of their Holy Text is wrong.

      And if PART of it can be wrong, the whole thing can be wrong, thus, it is Good News that Satanism is real. It validates their own religion.

  15. Lee says:

    Jesus Fail. =]

  16. fuzz on the concept says:

    ♪ I found myself in some kind of hell
    but I did not believe in a heaven and hell world in opposite’s kind of reality
    and I gained control of myself
    and I decided to press on … ♪
    _____
    help me Lord, I feel like dancing! *uh, tiss, uh, tiss, uh kiss kiss kiss*

  17. Tessie says:

    Well, it’s good news for Satan, anyway.

  18. Ineverfial says:

    SATANISM! *masturbates*
    You know what I will do now…
    *sacrifies baby, eats cat, has a party on the graveyard, fux a skull, vomits on gravestones* That should do. Good night, I have to go now… *watches Teletubbies* Winky-winkyyy >-.-<

  19. Locke says:

    Not really a fail, since even Christians believe that Satan exists and that people follow him, both in the theistic and non-theistic forms, but I digress. >_>

  20. porksword says:

    what the hell is the fail here?
    (besides somebody reading “The Good News”)

  21. Fiat Knox says:

    I’d definitely rather call this one “Good News WIN!!!”

  22. bovvered says:

    fail?! this is GREAT news! perhaps soon they’ll tell us Santa is real then my life will be complete.

  23. Crash! says:

    Non-christian win!

  24. Bo says:

    Trying to respond to comments. Guess I’ve been banned or something. What’s wrong with the blog?

    • Loz says:

      You haven’t been banned. Failblog is messed again. Click ’show all’ above the comments and that’ll help.

  25. phil says:

    basement cat can not haz this.

  26. Powerbeef says:

    this is fail hoooow?

  27. vgmaster831 says:

    There just aren’t anymore linenists are there, I can’t even find a nice place to worship near me.

  28. yubel says:

    Good news everyone! I’m sending you on a deliver from which you may never return! Well, I’ll get the ship started…

  29. Dschmeling says:

    I saw this and thought it said Vegetarinism is REAL!

    And though of significant fail…

  30. kk4you says:

    !!!!!!!EPIC WIN!!!!!!!!

  31. ur mother says:

    good news in a hysterical media country like the us

  32. SATANS_BRIDE says:

    HAIL SATAN
    that’s all i gunna say

  33. Luis says:

    Edit the news paper on your computer FAIL?

  34. Sion says:

    ya know what i need………………………………a prozzy!!

  35. randomguy says:

    what the heck, u just wrote that in urself


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