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burning an american flag doesn’t make you a terrorist…
Exactly. He doesn’t deserve injuries like that just for burning a flag.
Nope, he deserves much worse. I’d say at least permanent disability, maybe a few heart defects, if not outright death. If only…
Supporting constitutional rights FAIL
Nowhere in the Constitution does it say you are allowed to burn a flag. The argument of flag burning being a form of speech and thus protected by the First Amendment is shaky at best. It has only been upheld as constitutional when done in an entirely peaceful situation, a non-violent, non-aggressive demonstration with clearly identifiable statements being made by the organizers of the event. Looking at the rabble around him, I seriously doubt that that’s the case, and therefore not Constitutional, especially since it looks to be a Middle East setting, a place where our Constitutional laws have no jurisdiction.
Long story short, you = fail accusation FAIL.
“Nowhere in the Constitution does it say you are allowed to burn a flag.”
Your Constitutional analysis has it exactly backwards — flagburning, and every other activity, are protected unless you can find something in the Constitution that authorizes their prohibition. The burden is on you.
Your mentality is precisely why the Founding Fathers were afraid of enumerating individual rights in the Constitution, and why they wrote the Tenth Amendment.
“The argument of flag burning being a form of speech and thus protected by the First Amendment is shaky at best.”
No, not shaky at all, or else you’d be able to mount a solid argument against it, but you didn’t even try. If flagburning is not a form of speech then neither is any other form of public theater, so the government can criminalize most protests.
“It has only been upheld as constitutional when done in an entirely peaceful situation, a non-violent, non-aggressive demonstration with clearly identifiable statements being made by the organizers of the event.”
Now you are just making stuff up. Show me the Supreme Court ruling where it says any of that. Flagburning is like any other form of speech, and has exactly the same protections and restrictions.
“it looks to be a Middle East setting, a place where our Constitutional laws have no jurisdiction.”
The setting of this photo is irrelevant, because the previous poster was responding to your comment. Do you live in the US? Then the Constitution applies to you.
You fail and you need a remedial education in US history, law and political science.
Uhhhh…………………………….Big Mac?
One please
make it 2
how small does it go?
how small does it go? 2
can i haz big mac + cheez?
I want a big make with cheese hold the onions please..and
where i live that cost like 2 bucks…rip off
can i haz big mac + cheez?
i eated my old one.
Wow…
i can haz big mac
Wow
Ooh, thanks for that! And you’re right, a refresher course for that poster is in order.
that reply was pure success.
I love how all these jerkwads do not even list a nickname, only “anonymous” for all of them.
Tell me what state allows open fires on a public street. Name just one. Anyone. Then, go light a bondfire there, call it free speech, and see if you get arrested. If you do, you will need your own remedial education in law because setting fires in public settings is dangerous and illegal.
LOL. I love how certain people, posting anonymously like “veteran” here, criticize others for posting anonymously.
Also, I find it interesting that some bloggers feel the need to identify themselves as veterans or servicemen in order to make themselves more credible. Appeal to authority, anyone?
As for the substance of “veteran”’s comment, public fires are legal in some circumstances and illegal in others. In either case a flagburning ban is unnecessary and unconstitutional; just apply the underlying law.
1. Yeah, hypocrites are funny. XD
At least half of the “Athanar”s on the internet are me. Not anonymous.
2. Even though flag burning is legal, it shouldn’t be done disrespectfully.
Why not? Why can’t I get a US flag and torch it to show my utter contempt for the policies of the US done in the name of the flag?
And (just cause I am curious) – how do you torch a US Flag “respectfully”? Sing the Star Spangled Banner while you do it? Hum “My Country ‘Tis Of Thee” as the flames leap about?
When you retire a flag, it is burned and the ashes are buried.
THAT’S how you burn one respectfully, asswipe.
I’ll angel hole you. :~
I LIKE TURTLES!
Ananymous.
epic win for knowing your shit.
Blarg, you fail for being so close minded.
Epic fail for not being able to spell words that are spelled properly in front of you. Care for a potatoe?
I’m not closed minded, I a serviceman who doesn’t like to see the flag I will gladly die for burned by a fu(king moron. But I wouldn’t expect you to understand something like selfless service. Go back to your intertubes.
I’m a serviceman, the quote boxes push the text box to the side and I can’t see what I’m typing to proofread. Bug report?
hey, lets all make these reply boxes go as far as possible, k? C’MON GUYS! we can do it!
No … oh
you’d die for a flag?
go ahead, I’d just go to the store and buy a new one where
I so inclined.
to die for symbolism is idiotic, but don’t let that stop you.
by all means.
But still, judges say it is 100% legal. Don’t burn a flag if you don’t want to.
“The symbol of your country cannot just be a flag. The symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest.”
Or do you only fight for the freedoms you believe in?
you fail for not know int that potato and potatoe are both correct.
and for nitpicking, but i get that hit as well.
As for simple spelling mistakes and proof reading, did it ever occure to you that your arn’t the only one having the same problems for the same reasons.
I love my country. The government, however,is not what once was.
Say what you want, your are entitled to it because of the sacrifices servicemen and women like us have made over the centuries.
Dan Quayle? Is that you?
Blarg, you shouldn’t criticize others for spelling mistakes while you use incorrect grammer Mr.”I a serviceman”!
WIN.
“No, not shaky at all, or else you’d be able to mount a solid argument against it, but you didn’t even try.”
I didn’t try because this is failblog.org, not because I have nothing to throw against you. Get a life.
“Show me the Supreme Court ruling where it says any of that.”
Political Science was a few years ago, but there was a case out of Texas where exactly what I said was upheld. Looks like YOU need the remedial course, bucko. But, then again, you ARE failing on faiblog.org, so it makes sense. Continue failing!!!
“The setting of this photo is irrelevant”
Funny how you can decide what is relevant to my argument. The location is entirely relevant, because our Constitution has no power there, even when it’s photocopied and handed to them as their own Constitution. “Constitutional” rights are by no means unilateral across the globe, so setting MUST be considered.
Texas v Johnson? The case where the Supreme Court specifically identified flag burning as a protected form of speech, no different than any other form of expressive conduct, contrary to your claim? The case where the Court specifically rejected the state’s argument that it could adopt a law against flag burning in order to prevent violent conduct? The case that, in short, repudiates your whole argument? Maybe you need to re-read that case before trying to use it.
Go ahead and cite your claims, if you can. It shouldn’t be hard if you have a case in mind. lt’ll take you a few seconds with google to find the text of the case and maybe a minute with the control F function to get quotes.
Oh, I forgot: you have a life, unlike everyone else on this blog. That’s why you came back to defend a post you made ten hours ago. Obviously it would be too much trouble to ask you to stop playing peekaboo and show us a real argument. Blathering on without facts is much better.
The “rights” under the constitution were enumerated because the founders believed them to be Inborn rights (not Civil) which were previously ignored by other governments.
They are, or should be, unilateral in practice by those who believe in “Liberty and Justice for ALL”.
Stop running to the easiest way out (us vs. them) and start living in a higher mind (humans can be civil).
Don’t get your morals from Texas.
Awesome reply. It’s just a flag, A PIECE OF FABRIC. Don’t tell me you’re willing to die for a fucking piece of cloth. Burning it is just symbolism, like drawing a mustache on the president’s portrait. I’d much rather you died for the idea behind it. The idea can’t be burnt.
flags are totally evil
mucho pity for any service man keen on death
wake up dude
And so is your (cross / star of david / etc – insert religious icon here). Now, let someone soak it in a jar of urine and tell me you don’t feel a damn thing. Or better yet, let someone burn a picture of your children while a crazed group of people screams for their blood. It’s just a picture right? BS. Symbols carry meaning. Don’t be so ignorant as to think someone would die for cloth. Of course they’re speaking about the ideals and meanings behind it.
Not religious, sorry. And if someone tried to insult me using a picture of my family, I really wouldn’t give a damn apart from wanting to know where they got the pictures. Plus, the two are nothing alike. Burning a flag =/= wanting to kill your family. Seriously, comparing them is insane.
Grats, you win, cus you seem to be one of the few that actually gets the point.
So you’re okay with this? XD
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You made me do it. (No offense to the president, btw. Personally, I think he’s a good guy, just one who’s made some stupid decisions.)
Terrorist
“Ideas are bulletproof”
Let’s look at it this way : Pretend YOU are the symbol of America. Now how do you feel about being set on fire?……… while everyone defends the fire starter? More to the point, if you were in the middle of that group of people, it’s HIGHLY likely YOU would be set on fire and not the flag. And those people in the background would be cheering and hollering louder than they are for the flag. Keep it in perspective. If you live in America and are proud of this country then support it and it’s symbols. If you live in America and are unhappy with it, then either dedicate your life to changing what you can of it or move to another country. It’s the ones who live here and bitch and complain but do nothing to enact change that are unwanted and unwelcome.
This might be the dumbest post I’ve ever read anywhere.
I don’t think you’ve been on the internet enough, there have been many more posts that are at least as dumb as this.
Still, it does rank pretty highly.
Oh, believe me, I’m doing everything I can to change it. Starting with fighting to get MY country (Puerto Rico) away from the murderous chokehold of the US.. Come to think of it, maybe I’m just biased ’cause I think the US flag isn’t taht pretty to begin with.
Uh, well if I was the American flag, than I would probably be ok with it. This is the same treatment flags get from the U.S. government when they go out of service. It’s just a different person burning it. Plus, a sentinent flag wouldn;t be able to move, so it would probably be a hellish existence.
“Let’s look at it this way : Pretend YOU are the symbol of America. Now how do you feel about being set on fire?”
I’d be damned impressed that for once someone realized that I, the constitution were the symbol of this country instead of that pretty looking piece of fabric.
I’d also be a little proud because that would mean that maybe, just maybe that would mean they’d read me.
Lawyer win.
Note one: That flag doesn’t have anywhere near the right number of stars to be an American flag. At best, it is a representation.
Note two: It is unlikely, judging by the clothes of the burner, that that happened in America.
Note Three: FIRE SAFETY FAIL, BEYOTCH!
OBSERVATION FAIL
US law does not apply in foreign countries
HINT HINT
true that prohibiting the desecration of a flag would intrude on, if not obliterate our first amendment right to express our feelings/ anger. The matter at hand is this… Some angry protester got OWNED! Protesting fail = America win. 8D
<3 you. Blarg got owned, Founding-Father style.
Hey, it looks like we finally found someone who paid attention in Highschool, unless it’s some kid pretending to know what he’s actually talking about. What exactly are you striving to achieve from pointing out needless bull!@#$ no one cares about? If you’re looking for a cookie, you’ve failed.
Nowhere in the constitution does it say you *can’t*.
Nothing in the constitution lets you go on the Internet.
that “flag” only had 11 stripes and like 16 stars, so I figure it’s legality is a fire code issue.
On a side note, people always seem to forget that fire is the only respectful way to retire a flag (not in this setting of course).
Burning a flag is a job for an asshole but because he is not doing harm to anyone thus non-violent (if aggressive) and it is meant as a political statement is protected under the first amendment. The punchline is in bad taste too, How about “Reaping what you sow: Priceless.”
I think Anonymous forgot to say (well he didn’t really)
That the constitution ONLY applies to those in and from America…
What about the rest of the world, to us its nothing more than a piece of paper… (at this point you all prob guess that I don’t like America very much…)
nowhere does the constitution guarantee you the right to set something on fire and NOT GET BURNED.
Hoooooly shit.
death for burning a bit of shitty fabric? i think a lot of americans need to rethink who the ‘extremists’ are in these times of … unrest
i agree
Perhaps not. But he does deserve to get burned for his haphazard
handling of gasoline. I mean come on , do you know what that stuff costs nowadays?
Talking about cost, why blow $2.50 on a single cigarette lighter?
I would if it was an awesome anime character butane lighter. ^_^
fag
No… fag LIGHTER. I thought we’d been through this…
Yup. I would totally take up smoking for an anime lighter. And I’m completely AGAINST smoking. Maybe I’d make my mom use it.
I can get 8 for a dollar at the Marc’s down the street.
If you’re gonna spend more than a dollar or so on a lighter, might as well spend the bills to make it something nice like a Zippo. And yeah, if you’re gonna go lighting fires, maybe make sure your hand isn’t doused in gasoline first.
You get what you deserve, he got what he deserved
Is burning the American flag really illegal? That would be stupid if it were. I mean, policemen have much more important things to do than arrest people for trying to make themselves warm with what they have (which may be a possible reason one should burn the American flag).
He deserves injuries like that because he is a moron. These are the people with whom I don’t mind seeing wiping themselves off the face of the earth
Screw those who think this guy didnt deserve what he got and more. You are a bunch of communist ass holes
but burning any flag of any country makes you a fuckwit
if i saw someone burning my countrys flag id hit them even if there was a group of 20 of them doing it id give em ago even if i die because i love my country and my flag
I’d just call him dirty names with my friends and leave it at that…alive.
Yes, except you would not be alive… wake up
Wait, what? You *would* be alive if you didn’t try to kill them.
Not necessarily – not trying to kill them doesn’t mean they won’t try to kill you. The world is full of morons, as many people thus far in these comments have demonstrated.
Someone conducting a protest by burning some symbolic cloth does not make them a terrorist. Terrorists generally don’t bother with peaceful protests, or even riots. They may attempt to recruit members from such events, but all the terrorist linked activities seem to be gun and bomb related. Yes the dude in the photo deserves to be laughed at because he accidentally lit himself on fire. The circumstances behind the photo are secondary.
Patriotism fails. Dude, what is the point?
amen to that. it’s not like our government cares about us, so why should i have pride in my country. we’re the laughing stock of the world community. if the government did care about us then we would have healthcare, not infinite war. oh and whats even better is that they can’t even provide healthcare or even get disablity checks to the troops who were injured in this joke of a war, isn’t that great. fuck this country, these assholes that we DIDN’T elect have crashed the fucking plane into the fucking mountain.
im aussie my country does everything for me we have healthcare disability and all the good things hey if i dont have a job my country gives me money and helps me find a job so yeah proud to be aussie
aussie – comonwealth – same guys who run everything else in ‘1st world’ countries…
“Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.”
proud to be a perpetual ward of the state
guvvamint iz yr mommi
yeah, that’s something to b proud ov awright
chippy chip churrah!
Hells yeah!
Dole bludger ftw~!
You should have pride in your country because it is your country. If there’s something wrong with it, and yes, like every nation the US has its flaws, you should do something about it. Protest. Run for office. Start a new revolution and do government right. I don’t know. Don’t sit there badmouthing everything this country is and can stand for and insult those who do believe this country can be something great. That accomplishes nothing. If something is wrong, make it right.
“you should do something about it. Protest.”
What is that guy in the picture doing? lol, do you see him HURTING ANYBODO(that is not himself lol)???
Sure, it is not bhis country, but he probably feels that that country is doing bad for his own country, so he can’t protest about it?!?!
Ps: That is all just an example, for all I know thi guy could be an asshoel terrorist… Or not.
“You should have pride in your country because it is your country”
So – does that always apply? North Koreans should be proud of their country/ The people of Zimbabwe should jump up and celebrate their country?
Has it always applied? Stalin’s Russia? Afghanistan under the Taliban?
Are you telling me every person in the world should always be proud of their country all the time, because it is their country?
Yes, North Koreans, Russians and Afghans SHOULD be proud of their county, should be proud of their heritage and be proud of where they came from. The thing that they should be ashamed about is the government. What most people tend to confuse is a government with the country that it rules. Afghanistan, Russia and Korea all have very rich culture and history that lasted thousands of years. Their government however, have only lasted a few decades. Corrupt government is overthrown by patriots who love their country not people who are ashamed of their country and don’t care.
Abso_friking-lutly, nothing worse than an arm chair constitutionalists. We are
are different and all have something to offer, but one thing is for sure, people who do not promote and are participate in civic activities, should keep their traps shut, although in this great land of ours, it is their inalienable right for putz to make an arse out of themselves on a pubic forum.
Constitution I
Idiots 0
Sadly, that doesn’t change anything. I’ve started several protests and theonly people who cared were the ones in them.
hey big guy. if your country didnt care about you, you wouldnt have clean water everyday. go to somalia you dumbass. then maybe you’ll get a slice of …. freedom? or better yet, go to canada where taxes are through the roof. but, at least free health care right? nothing in this world is free and this is a pretty dam good country.
IAWTC.
“burning any flag of any country makes you a fuckwit”
Not Thinking It Through Fail, unless you intended to condemn everybody who burned the flags of Nazi Germany, Soviet USSR, and every other odious government throughout history. Obviously it’s okay to burn some flags. But who decides which flags we are allowed to burn? Is that your job?
“if i saw someone burning my countrys flag id hit them”
A neat summary of an entire political movement. Let’s quote it again for truth.
“if i saw someone burning my countrys flag id hit them”
George Washington would be so proud of you.
i stand by any flag 100% that burning them is wrong and the nazi flag wasnt the countrys actual flag it was the partys flag and i wouldnt hae burnt a soviet flag either
george washington im not american so mehs
my countrys flag makes me so proud im willing to defend it with my life my family fought for our flag and people in ww1 and ww2 and many other wars
but we aussies are more proud then most countrys
“the nazi flag wasnt the countrys actual flag it was the partys flag”
Maybe do a little research next time. The Nazi party flag was indeed the sole official flag of the German nation from 1935 to 1945. Not that that’s relevant to the question of whether it’s okay to burn the official flag of Nazi Germany, whatever you think that flag was.
“i wouldnt hae burnt a soviet flag either” … Are you saying that everybody who burned a Soviet flag is a “fuckwit”? Everybody who burned a Nazi flag, or a Japanese rising sun flag, like plenty of your Aussie fathers did? Those flagburners were more man than you’ll ever be. You should respect them, even if you don’t respect George Washington because of his nationality.
i respect george washington. he is 20 foot tall and made of fucking radiation. cant argue with that.
Don’t forget, he shoots lasers from his eyes!!!!!!!
he once held an opponent’s wife’s hand…at a party…in a bowl of acid.
two sets of testicles … thirty goddamn dicks.
I once saw him pick his teeth with a sequoia tree wrapped with
electric eels
A55H0L3
howz that microphallus coming along?
I take it then that Chuck Norris was the descendant of George Washington
Roflmao!
“No one can defeat Time Lincoln!!!”
ive never seen an aussie burn a flag of an enemy
and when your in the army you unit has a flag that everyone will put there life for as its a symbol of pride for your unit
Oh, well… as long as YOU’VE never seen anyone out of a country of 21 million people burning a flag, then it can’t have happened. Even before you were born. Assuming that you were actually born and not ripped from the stomach of Satan’s Chief Idiot…
You’re not an asshole at all, are you? Hell, you’re almost as kind and considerate as me!
Yeah, but without the dated emo Robert-Smith-of-the-Cure look.
Oh ffs don’t link all us Aussies with your ridiculous statements. You’re willing to defend a flag with your life? I mean, your country fair enough although, gee, you’ve picked one of the safest places on the earth to defend so not very hard to say that is it? But a FLAG? You would die for a piece of cloth? Sheesh.
hey australia’s really hard to defend actually – big coastline, little population. what’s kept us safe so far is
1) strategic allies
2) too crappy to bother with invading
Yeah, we invaded you and sent all our criminals there.
Now, generations and generations later, what do you know? Australia is a much better place that Britain. Funny how things work out.
LOL!!
I’m going to guess it’s because most of the criminals you sent were Irish.
That explains the insane amount of alcohol over there…
In fairness, the Japanese made a serious attempt to take Australia during WW2, and Australian troops fought a very tough campaign to turn them back. The battle of Milne Bay, won by Australian troops, was the first Japanese land defeat of the war and stopped the Japanese advance — though not widely appreciated, it was actually the high tide of the Japanese empire.
Let’s not forget the Kokoda Trail either. Those Aussies will always
have my utmost respect (whatever that’s worth) for their
determination and persistence in fighting a much larger force
on unfamiliar territory.
3) Big huge stretches of bushland and desert, without water, where any invading army would get lost and starve to death, where they didnt’t die of starvation first
easy to defend country ur jokeing right lmao
im guessing you dont have pride for our anzas if your not willing to die for the same honour and for there flag like they did
“but we aussies are more proud then most countrys”
its the criminal blood in ‘em. plus they’d die defending their sheep-shagging way of life.
Yeah, that’s New Zealand. And you ask someone from NZ, they’ll tell you yes, it’s absolutely true… just remember that they export it afterwards.
While I am glad to be an american (I don’t aprove of everything our government does, but thats another story), I refuse to Worship a Piece. Of. Cloth.
Seriously, I respect the things the flag may be ment to symbolize, but the flag itself is just a piece of patterened cloth, nothing more. Someone somewhere burning one is only an insult if you choose to take it as such, if you ignore it, the action becomes meaningless, and then you’ve defeted their entire point.
Excellent point, and might i add something.
We as a nation are so far from weret we started out its rediculous.
When asked what kind of governmet we had made for ourselves, Benjamin Franklin answered: “A republic, if you can keep it.” We honor him by putting his face on a $100 bill, and at least half the people who pay for their goods with said bill don’t even know who he is. It’s sad that when i say his name whe i make change for said bill, the most common response is “Who?”
It
is just a piece of cloth, the ideals it once stood for are dead, killed by the ignorance of her citizens.
Besides, there are bigger things to worry about in this world than people burning flags. Like how much money the U.S. owes China, and the possibility of war with Iran, or problems here at home like the flooding in the midwest, or even the war on drugs, even the upcoming election.
Look at the bigger picture, if you can focus.
It’s a piece of cloth. If you are going to love anything, love the ideas it (supposedly) represents, but don’t love the rag itself – that way lies madness.
No, just a terrorist sympathizer.
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Instant karma’s gonna get you…
Correct! And it is also not evil if you are against a State, no matter against which system!
He is just showing his stance. The “modern” governments just don’t have to do it this way, ’cause they got mass-media to manipulate.
If you can tell me that he would not kill someone burning his own flag, and that he would respect that person’s fight to free speech, then you can talk.
…well, no, he can’t say that – because the person is unknown. Your point seems to be very similar to Reductio ad Hitlerum – just because Hitler is widely accepted as being an evil man, doesn’t mean that everything he ever did or supported was evil.
Just because someone burns a flag doesn’t make them a terrorist. It’s the actual terrorism which makes them a terrorist. If you can tell me that he WOULD kill someone burning his own flag (just as freedom of speech is important, so is the idea that someone is innocent until proven guilty), and that he WOULDN’T respect that person’s right to free speech, then your point has merit. But guess what? Even if you can’t do that (and I’m guessing that you can’t), you can still talk, because that’s the great thing about free speech. Even if you’re a complete goon, you can still voice an opinion.
nope it doesn’t, its actually rather funny how everyone is fighting about our right to free speech and such when its just a guy who caught fire because he hates our country and wanted to show it through torching our flag. Our rights have nothing to do with anything in this picture.
Its a middle eastern guy who hates the USA burning a flag (and his arm) in order to show how much he hates our country messing around with his country. And its really funny how karma works huh? *chuckles*
it makes you an idiot……..
idiot, they clearly support terrorist groups so yes in my book they are terrorists
No, but burning an american flag while sporting a BEARD does!
indeed, thats a political protest
actually burning a flag isn’t real political protest – it’s more like asshole-protest…
furthermore this pic definitely shows fail (since thats what getting urself burned while trying to burn a flag is) so i dont really see your problem
ALALALALALA!
i see two fails here:
1) the guy that made this pic
2) the guy that uploaded this pic here
3. The guy who can’t count in binary!
9. the guy who can’t count in octonary
A. the guy who can’t count in denary
X. the guy above
VERY win
Note: you need some knowledge to get this one.
oh really? gee, thanks brainiac!
maybe hes not a terrorist…
maybe he just dislikes assholes and the flags that represent them.
Yeah, that is a possibility.
Your welcome for all the help in WWI and WWII.
Bam!!!!!
Oh sorry…..I didn’t know it was loaded…….
Skadoosh!!!!
Yeah I know…..STFU Keelhaul, we’re trying to have a serious conversation.
Boredom reigns with an iron fist in my world for now.
oh, $deity, not that tired, clueless statement again.
We’re all very grateful for the help, but don’t make like you won the war singlehandedly, or that your help was even decisive – everyone did their part, and yours was large, but the lynch-pin of the allies was the Soviet Union.
Yup, those Soviets one it all single handedly, They saved Europe and then did not leave the continent threatened for the next 45 years, dividing it up, parading nuclear weapons, or doing any of that. The US just pitched in a little, sort of like when a friend brings the dessert to a 7 course meal, then went back, left Euprop to rebuild itself and not pumping a single economic penny into a ravaged continent. That’s right. The Battle of Britain was going just fine….
Well… the Battle of Britain ended before the US joined the War. And the British won pretty much by themselves. Oooh, and it helped that Hitler needed to use his planes to fight the Soviets. And the Soviets were massively important, as has been pointed out. But what was also pointed out was that the everyone did their part, including the US. Who did their part largely thanks to the British winning the Battle of Britain by themselves, prompting a change in opinion in the US (promoted by Joesph Kennedy) which originally thought that because the UK was likely to be defeated in the BoB, there was no point in doing anything just yet. May as well wait until the early balance of play is sorted out, then weigh in and come to their rescue.
The US were incredibly important in WWII, and the British may not have got through the war without them. But for the love of God, don’t forget that
(a) Others fought too, and also played vital roles in the War
(b) Just because the US did stuff then, that doesn’t mean that everything that the US does now is perfect, just and moral.
(c) Unless you yourself fought in WWI or WWII, you have absolutely no right to claim some sort of superiority just because of your country’s history.
(d) It is history. Stop parading it round like some sort of deranged prat.
Yeah, the Brits won the Battle of Britain pretty much by themselves… except for all those Americans who risked their lives convoying supplies across the Atlantic, without which Britain would have collapsed. But no need to honor their sacrifices on behalf of a country to whom they owed nothing… they are Americans, so there’s no need to show them respect.
Also, I don’t know what history books you’ve been reading, but Joe Kennedy didn’t bomb Pearl Harbor, so unless he convinced Hitler to declare war on the US, your theory on how America got into the war is pretty much hogwash.
Pearl Harbor was the perfect excuse at the perfect moment.
The perfect excuse for what? Hitler declared war on the US, not the other way around.
Actually, the day after Pearl Harbor happened, the US declared war on Japan which, since they were allies, essentially also meant we declared war on Germany and Italy as well. In response to America’s declaration of war, Hitler then declared war on the US.
Nope, the US declared war on Japan and did not declare war on Germany, which refutes your claim that we “essentially” declared war on Germany — if we were really going to declare war on them we would have done it at the same time as we declared war on Japan. In all likelihood Congress would not have declared war on Germany if Hitler had not done it, because war on Germany would have been seen as a distraction from revenge on Japan.
Yes, excellent. Some Americans delivered some fuel which the British bought and used in their British-designed and built aircraft piloted by mostly British or European pilots. “On behalf of a country to whom they owed nothing”? You mean on behalf of a shipment which they were contractually obliged to deliver, because the British had paid for it? Oh, I’m sorry. Please forgive me. The US is responsible for the entire damn thing.
Oh, and I never said that Joe Kennedy got the US into the war. I said that he was responsible for the idea that the US should wait and see what happened until after the Battle of Britain, because he thought that the British would lose.
Like I said, the US were fabulous, amazing, wonderful, whatever you want, during WWII. But, like I said, others played massively vital roles too, and one never hears so much appreciation from Americans in that respect. It’s all about the US.
But even that isn’t relevant – this is about terrorism and the fact that parading WWI and WWII around is utterly meaningless and pointless.
Still denegrating the Americans I see — yeah, it was just “some fuel”, nothing important. Of course the British war effort would have failed if people hadn’t given their lives to transport it, but again they are Americans, so it’s okay to pooh-pooh their sacrifice.
And by “they owed nothing” I don’t mean that Britain got supplies it couldn’t pay for under the lend lease act, though that’s also true. I’m referring to the lives that Americans gave up in order to save Europe, even though America owed Europe nothing, even though America owed Britain nothing.
America would have been perfectly justified in crushing Japan, retaking the Pacific, developing nukes, and sitting out the war in Europe — just sit back and let the Nazis and Soviets destroy each other, that’s more efficient. Of course things wouldn’t have been so great in Europe, but as we’ve been informed America is not the world’s policeman, so there’s no reason for Americans to go around risking their lives to save ungrateful foreigners.
Bottom line, Europeans should be down on their knees forever thanking Americans for the sacrifices they made even though they didn’t have to.
What, you mean like America should be forever thanking the French for the sacrifices they made in the Revolutionary War, even though they didn’t have to? Oh, hang on… that didn’t really work out, did it?
What was the phrase? Oh yeah… “Cheese-eating surrender monkeys”, I believe. So what’s the time-limit on gratitude, then?
The French didn’t make any sacrifices for America in the Revolutionary War; they entered the war for their own self-interest. They waited for Britain to become weak, and then they jumped into the war to grab territory. America never owed France anything.
In contrast, Americans saved France and Britain WW1 and WW2 for idealistic reasons, when they would have been better off sitting back, letting the Europeans fight their own wars.
You’re honestly trying to suggest that America joined the battle on the western front without any notion of self-interest?
And regardless of why they did it, the French still joined the Americans in fighting the British, and subsequently created their own war with Britain, despite having next to no money to fund it and when it would have been far “easier” to just stay out and keep themselves to themselves.
So, yes, they did make sacrifices for America – just so that you can sit on the other end of the internet claiming that the only reason why anything good has ever happened is because of the US.
Regardless of why they did it? Motives mean everything here. The French joined the American revolutionary war for purely mercenary reasons, so they get no credit for it. Americans are under no obligation to thank the French for attempting to advance French interests. It is amusing, though, that the stupid French ended up bankrupting themselves and destroying their government through their mercenary, self-interested war — remind you of anybody who’s in the news today? The French deserve contempt for their participation in that war.
But I must say I’m loving your strawmen. I never said that Americans had no notion of self interest when they came in to save British/French bacon (repeatedly). I correctly stated that American intervention was motivated by idealism, and it was — any notions of self interest were secondary to the fight against evil. As I’ve already stated the self-interested choice in WW2 would have been to own the Pacific, build nukes and leave the Europeans to destroy themselves. Americans deferred their interest in vengeance against Japan to save European bacon.
I also didn’t say that the US is the only reason anything good has ever happened — that would be silly. The Romans were doing some good stuff while your savage ancestors were running around half naked and illiterate.
My position is that America did you Brits and frogs favors in WW1 and 2, and you should all get down on your knees and orally service America to show your gratitude. So hop to it, because I’m feeling horny.
OK. Let’s roll with your position for a second. Let’s take the argument that in the World Wars America was the very model of grace and favour, aiding the causes of Britain and France and fighting the axis powers because that was what was Right and Good and was worth sacrificing however many lives it took to defeat them.
Even if that were to be true (and it isn’t, no matter how much you want it to be), why should any nation feel compelled then to blindly follow them into a war with another nation when they do not feel the reasons to do so are just or acceptable? Why should America suddenly be incapable of idealogical flaws because seventy years ago they did the right thing?
Surely, if, as Americans, you believe in doing the Right Thing, fighting for good and against evil, etc., then you believe that other nations should do the same, and should call the US up if they feel that they are wrong? Isn’t blindly following and being led in spite of protests partly what got the world into the messes of WWI and WWII in the first place?
Britain owes America nothing. If America helped us out for idealogical reasons, then they need nothing and should not be asking for anything in return (not even blind loyalty – because that was never the idea), and if it was for money, or land, or power, or whatever else, then that has already been dealt with.
Also, lets not forget, the atomic bombs were designed and built by german scientists who were captured or had defected from Germany.
How did we get into WW1 & 2 anyway. First it was free speech and then patriotism and then hamburgers and then Australia and then (somewhere in this) WW1 & 2. And next is history!!!! I think we all (read: you all) fail for argue’n on Failblog and insulting each other. I’m gonna go watch RvB.
For one who parades historical knowledge around and belittles others with it, you certainly don’t know much. First: The supply ships that kept England stocked were merchant ships, not part of the US military. They are colloquially referred to as “Merchant Marines” but that is in name only. Yes they risked much and many lost their lives to German U-Boats but it was not a government action. It was the actions of private citizens and companies who were willing to risk their lives and boats to break the German blockade. Second: Hitler didn’t bomb Pearl Harbor the Japanese did, that was what got us into WWII, our retaliating raid on Japan’s newly conquered Islands in the south Pacific is what caused Hitler to declare war on us because he was their ally. It was only after this point that we answered our allies request to actively help them in Europe. Up till that point the US military was headed by people with isolationist policies who didn’t want to get involved because the war in Europe and Japan attempting to conquer every island in the pacific didn’t directly affect us even though our allies (countries we were sworn to protect and aide) were pleading for our help.
History is written by the winners, so it is almost always biased. Plus, you can’t believe everything you read, not everything about the history of everything is true. Hell, most of it is guesswork and speculation.
Fair enough – absolutely right. Just trying to counter the idea that because the US was the ones wot won it (apparently), that everyone who was fighting the Germans over sixty years ago should now bow down and lick their national balls.
Sorry, America helped who when?
gee, you must be pretty old, having personally fought in both wars. but what have you done for us lately? everyone hates us now, almost as much as you guys.
Homer=John McCain?
and our… help now? please. the times, they have a-changed.
Shouldn’t we be thanking Russia, they had the most losses in both wars.
So basically, all Americans are assholes to you. And that kind of generalization is what got us here in the first place..
Dunce.
Really?
Being terrorists is what put the US where it is.
As an american, I can safely say most americans are assholes. They focus on things that don’t matter whatsoever for most if not all of their lives. They’re wastrels, either eating an exorbitant amount or throwing half of their food away. And they’re also hypocrites, refusing to let mexicans into the country, even going far enough to build a gigantic concrete wall to keep them away, when immigrants themselves founded the country. If you don’t like what I’ve said, then go ahead and tell me to go to hell. I’m going there, and I know it. But I don’t give a shit. So for the love of god, THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE!
who’s refusing to let in the mexicans? unless you’re talking about the ILLEGAL mexicans.
funny how people skip over that one minor point.
As an
americanasshole, I can safelysay most americans areidentify other assholes.Don’t be surprised if you start seeing more of this going on right here at home if things don’t start turning around right quick…
Too bad there are so many people out there with such closed minds – “terrorist”, indeed.
Terrorists are from their point of view freedom fighters. To them, Dubya is trying to invade their land and kill their people. You’ve gotta remember, they didn’t just wake up one day and go “Hey, I think I’m gonna try and kill a load of Americans!”, it doesn’t work that way.
They were doing this WAAAAAY before Dubya… It has nothing to do with the liberation of Iraq.
America was brutalizing Muslims, directly and indirectly, long before the “liberation” of Iraq. But every new wound gives Muslims a new reason to hate America. So we should really stop encouraging them.
American has made muslim countries rich, we helped them to tap their resources and now we pay for those resources. We still send them aid. So, just how are we offending them? Cartoons of Mohammed? They shoudl be buring their own flags and attacking their own corrupt and inane governments, but of course, they would be killed if they did. Aren’t you glad you live here?
Learn to HISTORY.
Learn to EXPLAIN WHAT YOU MEAN
Learn to NOT FAIL.
Learn to NOT GET THE LAST WORD FAIL
what about the state of israel? what do you think about having a group of rednecks living un your garden? vould you like that?
What are you talking about? The Israelies have made the desert bloom. I would love to live next to the Israelies, what’s wrong with them? I really don’t understand why all those people can’t get along, its time to put your differences away now. It will lead to the destruction of all. And, stop buring flags too… Why don’t those mid-east countries take some of the towers of oil money they are sitting on and help their own people?? I see those oil sheiks flying around the world in their private jets. Invest in schools and jobs for their people instead of keep in them in the middle ages… Just look at the photo, why aren’t those people at work? Ok, IM DONE. EOT.
To me, you sound like you’re just a guy who’s ranting about something he knows nothing about.
I do have a bunch of readnecks in my garden and I have to say, it’s pretty nice if you ignore the noise and the smell. The even give me beer and barbaque.
I think they got the idea from the Crusades. I wonder where the crusades originated from….
Damn those evil Christians…
He’s indeed an asshole, but about the USA he’s right.
correct me if i’m wrong, but i think you’re meant to burn the flag and not yourself
Not everyone who protest again the questionable US-politics is a “terrorist asshole”. The people in the US once were so proud of their freedom of speech. Now this spirit is poisened with dump and unreflected patriotism.
And that same freedom of speech gives us the right to call him both a terrorist and an asshole if we wish.
And for me to call you a big dumb doo-doo head.
Caption = FAIL!!!
This is a fail because the guy is stupid enough to catch himself on fire! And a caption fail – burning a flag does not make you a terrorist.
I hate those frickin “priceless” slogans. It’s bad enough seeing them on the commercials, but it’s a thousand times worse on the internet. Every asshat on the ‘net thinks he’s sooo clever.
Hallelujah!
This pic would be very fun with a huge FAIL on it.
This caption definitely sucks.
I definitely second that.
I would have thought this site was above idiotic crap like this.
Logic Fail
now that’s comedy!
Asides from the terrorist bit, that guy did fail pretty hard. UNless burning yourself is the newest form of protesting.
Burning yourself actually is a form of protesting.
Jan Palach WIN!
Actually I think burning yourself is a fairly long-standing method of protesting in some hindu places:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_immolation
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complete racist pig.. uploader = fail
Caption fail. Burning a flag doesn’t make one a terrorist.
(’course the guy failed at that too, but it still doesn’t mean he’s a terrorist.)
Ignoring-All-Previous-Posts-Saying-This-Exact-Same-Thing FAIL
oh god, burn the flag, be a terrorist, that’s how simple it is uh… logic fail, failblog fail, fail fail -_-
Am I the only person who didn’t even notice the caption at first? I was too busy lol’ing at the guy who lit himself on fire while trying to burn a flag.
Nope. Me too. Everyone seems to be hating on this one, but I lol’d.
me 2… can’t really understand why everyone keeps naggin about it… u really can ignore the caption if you dislike it, can’t you?
Wow, way to totally miss the point of the comments section.
It’s funner this way.
Being happy while everyone else is angry is fun.
Roflmao :’)
Caption Fail. Author idiot.
Congratulations fail users. I was just about to say “burning a USA flag does not make you a terrorist, but you have all unanimously beaten me too it.
Failblog win
Burning another countries flag may not make you a terrorist, but it does make you an ass. And who’s to say he ISN’T a terrorist?
All completely pointless to argue about, he still failed, even if the caption sucked. “Arsonist Fail” would have worked just aswell.
“”And who’s to say he ISN’T a terrorist?”"
Hello? Innocent until proven guilty? You know, one of the core tenets of _real_ justice?
He’s obviously a terrorist! Look at the color of his skin and what he’s wearing.
I can only hope that was sarcasm. It’s a shame that some people actually think like that.
Of course it was sarcasm. Next time I’ll use my sarcasticon.
dude, I’m just being careful. There are people who say that sort of nonsense truthfully you know.
whos to say you are not a terrorist?
Whose to say I’m not a Terrorist!?!? With so many posts, one can only wonder. The plot thickens….
ditto thebrownhaze
Clearly since it’s so hip to hate America, anyone burning the American flag is a hero and not a terrorist. Statistically speaking, it’s people that go around burning other country’s flags that ARE terrorists and hate mongers. Now, to all you haters of America, what if that had been YOUR flag being burned? Different story huh? Or, do you hate your country as well as America? Because we sure have a lot of people in America that hate their own country. One of them is even running for president.
woot????????
Haha, I’m pretty sure neither candidates hate the US.
You sound redneck.
Nah, if he was a redneck he’d be complaining about a woman and a black guy trying to be president, and trying to decide who he hates more.
LOL.. I think thats basically what he just did.
If you mean McCain: Yes, he sure is.
Wait a minute…Joe Lieberman is running?
“what if that had been YOUR flag being burned?”
Onc of the flags of my country, the Union Flag gets abused all the time, particularly in America where people think its cool to ware it as a tee-shirt or whatever. Do you know how I feel? I couldn’t care less. Why should I care what some twat thinks?
I so agree. The Union Flag is the worst-treated flag ever, people treat it like the Jolly Roger, like it’s completely meaningless.
So, wearing a flag on a shirt, and therefore identifying yourself with that flag, is just as disrespectful as burning it? Please explain that better because it makes little sense, especially since the fashion of wearing the Union Jack (learn your own flag’s name) originated here, in Soho, in punk music with bands like the Sex Pistols.
WRONG! Union JACK at SEA. Union FLAG ELSEWHERE.
Yeah, ^this^
HA Know-it-all-fail. I *have* learned what my flag is called, now have you
For me to ware my flag as a shirt is cool, I am British. For non British to ware my flag could be offensive.
It’s a bit like seeing a stranger with a photo of your mum on his tee-shirt. You think “hat the fuck has he got to do with my mum”.
Get it?
Nicely put.
…Kind of setting yourself up for a “your mum” joke there…
“hat the fuck”?
And that, I think, pretty much sums up why you always see American flags getting burned and very rarely see any of the British flags getting burned, despite the fact we invaded Iraq right alongside the Americans and over the years we’ve done as much to screw over the Middle East as anyone else. Burn an American flag and all the mindless US patriots stand up and start ranting and screaming. Burn a British flag and most of us just sit there going “And?”. Its like a bunch of primary school kids teasing each other. They only do it because they know they can get a rise. If you ignored them… well, I doubt they’d actually stop doing it, but they certainly wouldn’t keep cropping up on TV.
I wouldn’t care, a flag is just cloth, it’s not like they’re burning something I give a damn about.
i can only second that
i’m not american, but i still feel pissed everytime i see someone burn another country’s flag (burning one of your own country is kinda special case but i think thats not of interest here) – so maybe we just ignore the terrorist-part and focus on the asshole-thing – which would be more appropriate than all this naggin-shit…
it’s got nothing to do with being “hip”. it’s because you’re terrorist cunts.
Wow, little Timmy knows some big words! I’m impressed! It looks like he’s ready to be a real man!
Hey Dark, what do you do all day. I mean, about an eighth of the posts on the thread are yours, and one can only wonder. Before you start insulting me, I’m not making fun of you, I’m just trying to get an answer.
I’d lol. Along with my whole country.
Brazil rocks(not).
As an American serving in Iraq: The gentlemen that burned the flag also detonated an IED (Improvised Explosive Device) on a Women’s Hospital we were building roughly a week before this was taken. How do we know? Nice video capture of him placing the bomb one night. The ultimate fail here? We caught him because of the injuries he recieved doing this!
All of the Americans who no longer care that our flag is being burned: You all Fail!
Yeah well if we weren’t there in the first place that wouldn’t be an issue, would it?
I’d happily burn a flag. Would you have them send this lil’ white girl to Guantanamo? I’m guessing not and I’m guessing you’re nothing but a brainwashed racist.
prejudice fail. stereotyping fail. if i had to guess i’d say research-before-you-form-your-opinions fail. yes, our president is a moron. please don’t paint us all with his brush because most of us didn’t vote for him.
I’m not American, so I don’t know how your presidential elections go. If most of you didn’t vote for him, how did he become president? Is the American democracy somehow different in that they work on minority voting instead?
In a nutshell, the Supreme Court “anointed” him in 2000, and corrupt elections systems and officials (ESPECIALLY here in Ohio) managed to keep him there in 2004.
And Florida, dead people voted in Florida!
Simply put, Conservative election officials in Florida prevented a bunch of Democratic voters from voting. Also, the confusing ballots resulted in many unintentional votes for a candidate besides their preference (read: 3000 voters mistakenly voting for Pat Buchanan because the butterfly ballots were so hard to read).
Hilary claims she won the popular vote. So tell me, did she win or did Obama? If you say she did, you need to protect Obama’s win. If you support Obama, you are saying Bush won fairly in 2000. Which is it? Is Bush’s win legit or is Obama’s not legit? I would love to see Chez answer that one intelligently.
(either way Bush is still a dope and Kerry more so because he could not even beat a dope like Bush.)
(typo: I meant “protest Obama’s win” not “protect”. I broke my finger on my right hand and am having trouble typing lefty)
Your argument fails because Hillary only “won” the popular vote if you exclude the votes of hundreds of thousands of people who voted against her.
It’s a bit of a straw-man argument there ace.
Popular vote doesn’t elect democratic nominees, that’s a rule of the DNC not the government. Obama won the majority of delegates and thus secured the nomination.
Bush’s win in 2000 uses an incomplete count of a razor thin differential in the popular vote to determine who won Florida’s electoral college votes.
You’re effectively comparing apples and applesauce. Same fruit, different texture.
BTW, I have my own definition of “most”:
Bush 62,040,606 51%
Kerry 59,028,109 48%
Please ignore facts that disprove my point.
Sorry, I acidentally pressed the add comment button on my screen. Sorry to disturb you guys fight.
You have a problem with men and women serving our country? Disbanding our military would be the equivalent of dropping the soap in a prison shower: We’d be fucked by every other country with no way to protect ourselves.
Don’t like that anology? Let’s try this one: Having no military would be a sign of weakness to any other country who does have one. When animals see another with such a weakness, they attack and kill that animal. Survival of the fittest, and all.
Who said we should disband the military? I think you are making a big jump in the argument here and responding to a position that no ones expressed.
Disbanding the military would not be a good idea, however, we could bring them home to defend our country (you know, if we were ever to actually be attacked by another country), instead of having them spread over the entire planet. seems to me we have ourselves spread pretty thin as is. Wouldn’t that be seen as weakness?
Why do we insist in interfereing with everyone else’s business?
(And no, Iraq didn’t attack us on sept. 11, thats no excuse)
defence, theyr doin it rong.
Best form of Defence is a good Offence as the saying goes
My view on the matter: Reservists.
You don’t need a full-time, standing military, just well-trined people who can carry on day jobs when they don’t have to defend (or, if you prefer, “defend”) their country. Full-time militaries promote international violence because that is their reason for existing. The implication is that if you aren’t defending your country, you’re wasting your time.
I’m gonna brace myself for “Canada’s military sucks lol” comments but I’ve known several people in the Army Reserves who have gone to Afghanistan (as drivers and instructors for the Afghan police), came home after their tours and returned to civilian jobs. A T.A. at my university is an infantry segeant who has been to Bosnia. I know my country has a full-time military and as such my comments lose a lot of their potency. Perhaps someone who knows the names of the countries that DONT have full-time militaries can contribute to this post better than I have.
Let me be very blunt about this:
1) If we weren’t there, they’d be here and it would still be an issue. If you don’t believe that, you’re braind dead peice of meat that’s wasting space and air.
2) I am not a racist. I have national pride. There’s a HUGE difference.
3) Yes, I would happily send you to Guantanamo. But that’s the beauty of the U.S. of A. You have the choice and the freedom to burn a flag as a form of protest no matter how much I dislike it. A freedom that my friends and I have paid for in blood.
So before you start mouthing off behind your little shield of anonymity, get your facts straight, know what you’re talking about, and realize that you don’t have even the tinyest bit of correct information if all you’ve got to go by is the news.
“They’d be here”, would they? They’d try to invade America, you really think so? I seriously doubt that.
They, terrorists, have ALREADY invaded this country. Remember 911? Or has that become a dirty word? You think they still are not here, waiting? You think they don’t cheer when they see how divided our country is getting?
But, do you remember that they were SAUDIS (our “friends), not IRAQIS?
i think you mean 9/11.
911 is the number for 911.
Wait.. what’s the number for 911?
hold on…i’ll call 411 and ask…quick, what’s the number for 411?
Excuse me sir, but this is 711, I belive you were looking for 111 so you can find the number for 411 so you can find the number for 911. While you are here, can I interest you in a large pepperoni pizza for only 6.99?
“If we weren’t there, they’d be here and it would still be an issue. If you don’t believe that, you’re braind dead peice of meat that’s wasting space and air.”
That is a gross oversimplification: the logical fallacy of false choice. Please think before mindlessly spouting inane Republican slogans and insulting people who disagree with you.
Logical fallacy of false choice? I really wish I could declassify some of the information I’m sitting on. I believe you’d change your tune pretty quickly after that.
For the record: Fuck the republicans. Fuck the democrats. I despise every single one of the politicians currently in office that I have had any contact with (direct or indirect).
Right, so Forrest Gump here is “sitting on” all sorts of mindblowing intelligence which would demonstrate the terrorists would all come from over Iraq to attack us, if only we weren’t occupying that country. But gosh darnit, he just can’t show it to us, because it’s classified! How inconvenient for him that he can assert his claims, but not prove them!
Here’s a tip for the future, Forrest: you can get away with unverifiable arguments from authority every once in a while, but when you use them too often, your credibility starts to suffer. Try constructing a logical argument next time.
The problem with politicians is that they care too much about themselves and too little about their people.
It seems that occasionally there will be a politician that actually does care about the people and once they are in office they realize the only way to get things done (or serve their cause) is to “play the game”. After playing it for a while they either get corrupted or just give up…….I think the fault lies in the “system”. The “government” is corrupt, fat, and happy and the people pay the price. At least here, in the good ol’ USA, money makes shit happen……..or not.
Not Guantanamo, but a nice local jail. If nothing else, burning a flag is setting a fire in a public place. If you burned a cardboard box in the middle of the street, that would be illegal. Just because you label it free speech does not make a crime legal. If if does, how would it be any different if someone slapped you across the face for it?
It’s unlikely that it’s Irqq: according to the proliferation of parveez kameezes in the crowd, I think this photo was shot either in Pkaistan or in Afghanistan.
Good eyes, that is Afghanistan! And before anyone says “You said Iraq” I said I was in Iraq. I never said the picture was from Iraq.
Ok, but you said you recognized the guy…
I’m on my third combat tour. Twice to Afgahnistan, currently in Iraq.
Nice cover-story dude… really convincing.
Akiva, thank you for your service to our country and for keeping us free – do you think those people can burn their own flag??? NO! They can’t but we can, remember that.
i call bullshit. you can’t even see his face.
You obviously haven’t seen the video capture this is from.
I’m going to believe you why? To be honest, I could say I am a high-ranking member of Al-Qaeda, and I could tell you that this man was preaching freedom from an oppressive government of warmongering bastards.
anyone who gives a damn about burnt cloth fails in my opinion. Now let’s stop arguing about politics please.
But arguing about politics is fun.
I knew it!! Mhahaha, I am so good at clue!!
Akiva: Thanks
How odd that this picture is posted so soon after a friend and I were engaged in heated debate about the morality of shutting down a school newspaper cause some kid wrote an article on flag burning.
Anyway, flag burning is covered under the first ammendment, a decision upheld by the Supreme Court in 1989.
But it is pretty funny to see someone catch themselves on fire doing it. That’s not a fail cause you’re trying to burn a flag.. That’s a fail cause you’re a complete moron.
yes, that is odd.
say, are you THE ‘Charro’? can you say ‘coochie-coochie’?
i love that bit
Crazy..that dude did kinda fail tho
CIA supplied flag?
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I took an oath to defend your right to be stupid, like burning yourself in public. That doesn’t mean I have to like when you catch a flag on fire in the process.
If you don’t like the laws, change them
If you don’t like the my Country, leave
If you want to live in the USA, speak ENGLISH
1. We keep trying to change the laws, but unfortunately, true progress is blocked at every turn.
2. I am a U.S. citizen by birth, but I don’t have to LIKE the path my country is heading down.
3. I see NO problem with immigrants speaking their mother tongue. My grandparents were German immigrants – they spoke German at home, English when we kids were around and in public. America was and IS the great melting pot…our diversity is what makes us great.
Nothing wrong with speaking your mother tongue, I live in the US and speak Spanish and English. But, if we don’t all speak a common language the country will be over, which is what some want.
1. True. We can remove the people blocking the progress.
2. Not liking the path is different from not liking the country.
3. I’m sure he means in public (as in when speaking to the public/ conducting domestic business)
Remove the people? Dictatorship much?
Removing the politicians currently in office by voting for someone else.
Dumbass.
Ah. Must be me thinking like a dictator then. Sorry.
“I took an oath to defend your right to be stupid, like burning yourself in public. That doesn’t mean I have to like when you catch a flag on fire in the process.”
quote fox news
I don’t understand the “quote fox news” bit. I don’t watch Fox news and would be very cautious about quoting them as a source for anything.
I am a former USAF firefighter. I made that statement as my own and have no knowledge of any one else ever saying this.
“If you don’t like *the my Country,* leave” (asterisks mine)
put together with
“If you want to live in the USA, speak ENGLISH”
= total hypocrisy.
I guess almost all of you fail in humour, so what if the guy is or is not a terrorist, it’s just a ‘funny’ (debatable, I know) picture for the failblog.
The world is a serious enough place as it is, lighten up a bit people.
terrorist ^
lightening up fail?
I just want to know where he got enough gasoline to burn a flag for only $2.
That picture has been around the internet with the “priceless” caption under it for years now. Gas was cheaper back then.
Am I the only one here that thinks the burning flag is the terrorist?
Look at the people run!
Its the flag’s natural behavior to fight back once it is being attacked and it did it oh so well!
Oh, I know I should just stay out of this nonsense, but yours happens to be last and most foolish:
“Its the flag’s natural behavior to fight back once it is being attacked”
Firstly, grammar fail. Second, anthropomorphizing the flag is… just no.
1.) It’s more like a “I just woke up fail” than a grammar fail.
2.) I prefer the word Personification.
standsalone=sense of humor fail.
Yeah! Don’t anthropomorphize the flag! It doesn’t like it!
I think I just anthropomorphized my pants.
I anthropomorphized once in school once (on accident). It blew my desk up and gave me third degree burns. Owch
Some people wouldn’t know sarcasm if it walked up and bit their faces off.
That woman in france would.
Haha! Damnitt, I can’t believe you just said that…
I’d definitely call this a flag win.
(And, Jesus, people, who is the person worth getting angry at? The one burning the flag and showing disrespect to the country or the one who – in a joke post – called the idiot a terrorist? It’s fine to argue the technicality of the point, but there should be more glee over the idiot’s fate and less outrage over his maligned rights.)
this is the FAILBLOG and this guy FAILED.END OF.
Burning the flag of those who invaded your country doesn’t make you a terrorist, but a HERO!
Being caught on fire while doing it means you’re stupid
He’s a stupid HERO!
I can only hope you are not in the U.S.A and that you stay FUCK OUT kittens you you are not only an asshole but most likley an ugly one as well. I would like to wrap you and anyone else that thinks its ok to burn
”the piece of rag ”we call our flag up with the stupid asshole that set himself on fire with you own flag and light it up .If you do live here leave, go to iraq see how it is there. Im an army wife my husband is protecting this country and trying to help people who don’t give two shits about their country or anyone else. Tell me kitty do you leave your dead where they fall ,cats ,dogs ,people to lay and rot there? They do . Realy if you live in the U.S get out.
You’re right…I apologize.
I appreciate the hard work that your husband and thousands of other brave soldiers are doing in my behalf.
I tend to externalize my self-loathing into incoherent, USA-bashing rants.
I realize how much better America is than most other places in the world (otherwise I WOULD get out).
Truce?
Name robber, I hope he gets hurt to a leg or something so he can come hope before he dies for your country’s imperialistic aims, btw, you’re one hell of a dirty wife, are you sure you’re not male?
Whoops, sorry, I did it again, plz excuse.
My shrink says I’m bi-polar which is weird cuz I was sure I was 100% gay.
Guess you never know.
Semper Fidelis.
That was funnier than the real picture!!!
“Catching yourself on fire because you are terrorist asshole.”
That caption is pure win! Makes the picture not fail as badly.
Yay! American flag burns terrorist!! WIN!
Gasoline: $2 <- Estimation fail
lmaoo yesss! I was thinking that as well XDXDXD
lmaooo yeee!
Cigarette lighter: $2.50
I dunno what that is in GBP, but you can get a 10-pack for a single pound.
2.50 is pretty expensive. I blame Big Lighter. We should push to have the lighter cartel become subject to a windfall profits tax and use the revenue to invest in earth-friendly rubbing-two-sticks-together technology.
Go green!
CAPTION FAIL.
This is FAILBLOG, not “MASTERCARD SPOOF” Blog.
That is soooo 1999s!
Al-Alagh fail…
Yes it’s a FAIL! And yes it’s funny (notice the relationship between tragedy and humor).
But no, burning a flag is not a big deal. It’s a just piece of cloth which is set on fire for crying out loud. It’s exactly the same sensitivity that makes muslims around the world go hysterical when a cartoon depicting the prophet Muhammed appears in a danish newspaper. We all wonder what all the fuzz is about, but when a person starts burning the flag of your country it’s time for you to go ape. Same stupid shit!
People are out to push each others buttons, and they find them, merely for the fact that there are a lot of buttons.
Having fun makes much more sense, and that’s what this blog is for, so let’s concentrate on that shall we?!
Don’t listen! This is just one of their sneaky commie-muslim logic tricks!!!!!1!!!
But seriously, very good point.
Actually, it wasn’t the cartoons that appeared in the Danish newspaper that caused the problems. They weren’t inflamatory enough. So certain rather underhand muslim clerics drew their own cartoons showing the prophet having sex with a pig and passed those around the Middle East, claiming that was what was published in the Danish newspaper. Which, quite understandably offended a lot of Muslims. But it was their own spiritual leaders lying to them, their own preconcieved notions (What they’d been told by their leaders for years) of how the West feels about Muslims and a lack of access to other news sources that caused the people to believe the lies. And of course, most western news coverage ignored the fact that there were a second set of cartoons floating around, because then we wouldn’t be able to point to Muslim countries and say “See how much better we are than them, because we have freedom of speech.”
Many religions do that, spreading hateful messages about their “enemies”. Christianity did it a lot, claiming all non-Christians were evil and that they did this ritual and that ritual etc.
Some still do, like that idiot “Baptist Church” (can’t remember the name) in the States, claiming that because America supports homosexuals and America is at war and so soldiers are dying, soldiers are dying for homosexuals, and therefore ARE homosexuals. Or something…
To be honest, I think that if Christ were here today, he’d probably give the leader of that church a damn good kicking.
(Metaphorically, of course.)
I suspect if Christ were here today he’d give the leaders of most churches a good kicking. None of them seem to have got the hang of that “love thy neighbour” thing. Or indeed any of the bits were Jesus essentially said “Look, just be nice to each other.” They all seem to revel in the bits of the bible that preach hate, fear and control.
As much as I shouldn’t think this (as a Christian)…
…The idea of Jesus wrestling a fundy priest to the ground and kicking him in the stomach going, “Just… fucking… love… thy… fucking… NEIGHBOUR!” is rather amusing.
You guys realize this was posted back in ‘01 or ‘02, right? It’s ancient. Hence the $2 gas.
And I’m gonna stop reading comments on here, everyone’s so fucking knee-jerk defensive over the stupidest things.
I will, at some point in time, upload a FAIL involving a fish.
“OMG Cruelty to fish!”
“I hate being human, I wish I was a fish.”
“What if there was a fish reading the comments??? He’d be so offended.”
Jesus.
So? What have you got against fish?
/irony
how dare you use fish as the butt of your sick jokes, mister! don’t you know fish have no irony glands, and can’t appreciate your so-called humour? words hurt! i’m a doctor and i was there! think of the children!!!1!!
‘Fish’?….’Butt’?
Now who’s sick.
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heh.
I have to disagree, my friend. I find reading the comments makes up half of the humour. Watching people have hissy fits over things like this? It’s a good laugh.
I love this comment.
Check!
Please!
Sadly, this picture is faked with photoshop.
Sadly, this was not photoshop, but nice comment fail.
Except it is photoshopped. Notice how the flame stays in a flag shape in the second picture — but wait, where did the flagpole and the guy carrying it go? Apparently this is a magic flag that stands at attention even after its flagpole disappears — either that or somebody exaggerated the flames with photoshop.
You retard. Use your mind for a minute. Those cheap flags usually aren’t cotton, and have a heavy chemical composition.. and go up quickly.. the guy holding the flag would be easily concealed by the flames taking up most of the frame in the 2nd pic.
Slow day at work?
Also.. there’s video of this floating around the internet.
What’s with you “it’s photoshop” fucks? You probably ran around as kids telling your friends “there’s no Santa Claus” to piss on their parade just so they could share your pain over daddy beating mommy after a handle of Jack.
Stop bitching.
IAWTC
$2 gas – what, did he get half a gallon?
Old picture — I’ve seen it floating around for a while.
Wow. This entire blog is filled with people who hate America. This image was probably taken at the failblog offices.
Um, I think Lolnathan doesn’t understand the concept of “blogging”. The people who post comments in response to the pictures have no affiliation with failblog, and are certainly not gathered around “the failblog offices,” aka the basement of the blogger’s mom.
your mom win.
yes, and often.
Nah, but the entire blog is filled with people who’ve done your mum though…
Anyone else think he looks like a portly Jesus?
Fat Jesus hates America. How sad.
Well in America we have free speech, so you should all shut up!!
Best. Fail caption. Ever.
I think everyone needs to leave Michael Moore alone while he recuperates from his burn injuries.
A side note: American flags made in America by law and tradition have to be of a certain size and made of certain materials. These materials are usually cloth or Cotton. Canadian flags and American flags made in other countries are printed on polyester.
When these polyester flags burn, they wrap themselves around anything near as they twist and are almost impossible to get off as it is molten plastic. This man should have checked to make sure what kind of flag he had.
Identification Fail: not fat enough to be Michael Moore.
In every conuntry there are rules for a standard and sturdy flag. But usually they are a bit expensive to burn out in protest or rioting.
Oh and if you want an USA flag, you can ask a tailor to do it as you desire. :-p
“cloth or cotton”?
taxonomy fail
Hemp cloth? There’s more types of cloth than cotton, but i see your point.
Hemp? Who said ‘hemp’? That would be acceptable for burning.
I’d burn hemp, if you catch my drift. Nuge, nuge. Wink, wink. Cough, Cough, Cough. Hack, weaze.
Did anyone notice this flag was handmade? This means he had to go to the trouble of making it BEFORE he could burn it. Hell…that’s more dedication than some of the patriotic people I’ve met.
the flag does not have enough stripes or stars to be an American flag.
Flag making fail.
Ah, see he’s not a terrorist after all because this is not a true American flag. What he’s really protesting is the makers of fake American flags. I think some of you guys owe him an apology.
^^^ My favorite comment so far. ^^^
Thank you.
yes very awesome
EXACTLY!! He’s a union guy trying to bust up some scabs! He’s just trying to make a living, manufacturing authentic American flags.
I like how everyone is saying the author is a moron for calling the flag burner a terrorist, that is just his stereo type for people whom hate America. Because all of the Anti-Americans on this post are bashing Americans and calling them pigs and assholes and such. Well if not all Muslims, Iraq, and other Middle Eastern people are “terrorists” and you don’t expect people to think bad of you and think that way, remember not all Americans have the same views as our current president and want him out of office, and some if not most of us care about what is really going on in other countries.
It seems like a few can spoil the whole bunch in life and people keep hating people they never met, for reasons unknown.
I dunnow, I like Bushy boy.
great point
Awesome!
What I don’t get is there are Anti-Americans calling Americans pigs, assholes, ect…
But when someone stereo-types a guy burning the American flag (a symbol of that persons country to whom he holds allegiance) and calls that man a terrorist for hating his country, he gets told he is “wrong”. I’m sure none of you, if you like your country and your people, would want your flag burned by someone who has no idea about your country and how your people feel.
It is all about view points, and the sooner people realize that the viewpoints they take about other people the sooner things like this don’t have to happen.
Not all Americans agree with the current president and can not wait to see him leave office esp. and care about the world and what is happening in it. The younger generations especially.
As well I’m sure not all people in other countries are terrorists and would not want to be associated as one.
What I don’t get is a) your triple post and b) why you didn’t look up “terrorist” before you posted.
What I don’t get is where you think people were calling Americans “pigs”. I didn’t see it anywhere. I also don’t remember seeing anyone saying all Americans are “assholes”. I’ll tell you who are arseholes though. People who say others are anti-American just because they don’t have their lips pressed firmly to your country’s collective arse-cheeks. I have nothing against America or Americans in general. I just happen to think your President is a dangerous lunatic, your (and our) invasion and occupation of Iraq is unjust, illegal and wasting the lives of thousands on both sides and that everyone who thinks they’re better than others just because they were willing to go get shot at is an arrogant fool. But when you come in making false statements about what others have said, in some sort of poorly thought out attempt to defend your country’s reputation, it just further reinforces everyone else’s view that Americans are generally idiots. Think before you post. You’re embarrasing your country.
What I don’t get is there are Anti-Americans calling Americans pigs, assholes, ect…
But when someone stereo-types a guy burning the American flag (a symbol of that persons country to whom he holds allegiance) and calls that man a terrorist for hating his country, he gets told he is “wrong”. I’m sure none of you, if you like your country and your people, would want your flag burned by someone who has no idea about your country and how your people feel.
Flag burning is (usually) not terrorism. If you want to criticize this guy for flag burning, that’s fine, so long as you don’t confuse terms.
How would you feel if an army invaded your country, killed your people and portrayed your nation as evil, all because of the resources you have?
how would you feel if your country was ruled by a murderous despot who got away with it because all the UN did was keep their hands in their pockets and let the despot off with a verbal warning?
If my country, are you referring to Maggie Thatcher, or Tony Blair?
If the USA, are you referring to George Bush Sr, or George Bush Jr?
If Israel, are you referring to Ariel Sharon, or Ehud Olmert?
(Varying degrees of murderous there)
…and surely, if you like your country, none of us would want our country invaded and our people killed because of an attack which had nothing to do with our country…
It is all about view points, and the sooner people realize that the viewpoints they take about other people the sooner things like this don’t have to happen.
Not all Americans agree with the current president and can not wait to see him leave office and care about the world and what is happening in it. The younger generations especially.
As well I’m sure not all people in other countries are terrorists and would not want to be associated as one.
Flag burning is a disgusting act of hatred. I don’t care WHOS flag you burn, the act of doing so is ignorant and hate mongering whether you’re a terrorist or otherwise. To denounce an entire nation based off the decisions and actions of a select few in power is ridiculous.
the American flag is supposed to represent our nation and the things about it that make us proud. It doesn’t represent Bush or the War or just one particular way of thinking- it represents freedom, hope, and the promise for a better future. To burn it is to condemn these things.
Hating on America is the trend nowadays and this deeply saddens me. I am in no way a supporter of President Bush and I didn’t agree with our invasion of Iraq, but those don’t change my pride in being American. This country has given my family everything we have. I will always be proud of where I came from. The America I know is vastly different from the America the media portrays. I may not agree with the actions of the President, but I would never equate him with Hitler or the devil, as some people do. Although I disagree with him, I wouldn’t say that he is an evil person. He just has different beliefs than most people and acted on them.
Whatever. I think the guy in the picture got what he deserved. You instigate hatred towards an entire nation, you get burned. Karma’s a bitch.
Agreed. In the United States of the Offended, it has now become popular to focus only on the negative.
I take offense to that your pig.
What’s his pig got to do with anything? Is it like a “your mom” joke but from Alabama?
What’s Alabama got to do with anything? Why, if my uncle-daddy were still alive, he’d tan yer hide.
what’s my uncle-daddy got to do with anything? watch your mouth, boy. you may be my brother but i’m still yer father. wait’ll i tell our sister-wife!
Actually, all American flags should be burned. It’s the proper way of disposing of them. What else would you do, throw it in the trash? Look it up!
I was wondering when someone was going to point this out!
Holy shit!!!! I (for some odd reason) have read all these comments and I learned a very valuable lesson……….reading babble gives me a fucking headache……OUT!
CAPTION FAIL (AGAIN!)
The FAIL should be at the SECOND picture where the action of FAIL occurs.
PWNED!
Tesify to your edits.
Oh, and he’s a fundamentalist or jingoist asshole. Terrorists tend to be brighter about accelerants.
comment win
every normal human being should burn american flag… go to hell USA!
You know if we go, there are a few things that are probably going to go with us:
Carl’s Jr.
Pizza Hut
KFC
Taco Bell
Panda Express
And on a more serious note
Life Liberty and The Pursuit of Happiness
Bill of Rights
The right to seek practice and defend Truth, Justice, Equality especially to those who are women and minorities.
But I’m sure you wouldn’t miss any of those things. Besides, I’m sure all of this would get in your way right?
First off, I want to point out that I don’t agree at all with tru blak metal up there. However…
In the UK we only have Pizza Hut and KFC out of that list. If you mentioned McDonalds and Burger King it might have slightly more relevance. Anyway, it’s not like those would be a great loss. We have our own high-fat fast food places over here thank-you-very-much. :p
I’m also going to quibble with your statement about “The right to seek practice and defend Truth, Justice, Equality especially to those who are women and minorities.”
In short? Bullsheet. If women and minorities were equal then there wouldn’t be such a huge gap between the average wage of white males and every other demographic. People wouldn’t do everything in their power to stop two people of the same gender who love each other being able to express that love by getting married. Not so up on racial politics, but I severly doubt you’d have to look far to see ways that black and minority ethnic community over there is discriminated against. I know we’re not much better over here in the UK, but the point is repudiating your claims that you have these things that you don’t.
“But I’m sure you wouldn’t miss any of those things.” Of course. How can you miss what you’ve never really had.
Besides, when has your Bill of Rights or any of the other stuff you mention ever applied outside of the USA? If the USA ceased to exist the rest of the world wouldn’t lose Life, Liberty or the Pursuit of Happiness (whatever those pithy words actually mean nowadays). We’re not controlled by you or your corporations, much as certain people in big business might wish otherwise. We have our own versions of rights and freedoms, wthere your country exists or not.
Your comment about equality for woman and minorities truly resonates.
Especially when you compare western values with fundie islam. Do they have shari’a law in muslim areas of the UK yet?
No?
Give it time.
Meanwhile you might want to brush up on some handy terms:
Kaffir
Dhimmi
Jizya
Taqiyya
and of course,
Eurostan
peace out
Okay, I can find deffinitions of the first four words. I can’t find a deffinition of Eurostan though. What exactly are you trying to say there? That just because the west has better human rights that most Muslim countries that we don’t need to do anymore? That we should stop trying to make our own countries more equal, because other countries won’t? Or are you just trying to instill fear that every Muslim who moves to the west is going to try and force their rules on us? It’s idiots like you who attack religious minorities in this way that make those communities so insular, because they fear other people’s reactions and stops them integrating into our society.
Emma honey,
‘Eurostan’ is what the jihadis want in Europe, and misguided, over-tolerant Europeans are capitulating in the name of appeasement.
There have been calls by French and British Imams to enact shari’a law in ‘Muslim areas’, and European politicians are actually considering it!
Do you mean you’ve never heard stories of western women being accosted by Muslim men who harass and call them ’sluts’ because these women dress in western fashion?
Shari’a is an anti-western, anti-freedom, anti-liberal democracy contamination.
You admit that the “west has better human rights than most Muslim countries”, why would you want to spoil that by allowing freedom’s enemies to spoil all the west has worked so hard to achieve?
BTW, I never attacked religious minorities, nor do I advocate such behavior. And perhaps these communities are insular because the Imams eschew integration with western values.
You’d better wake up or put on a burqa and start learning Arabic.
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End of rant.
I’ve heard stories about muslim men accosting western women and calling them sluts. I’ve heard that they want to enact sharia law in muslim areas. The thing is, the only places I’ve heard this from are the more right-wing media sources that are trying to stir up trouble between the West and our latest bogeyman. I’m not saying there’s no truth it, but you’re tarring an entire religion with the same brush here. Not all muslims want to destroy our way of life. In fact a lot of muslims move to the west because they don’t like the way their countries are run any more than we do.
Those aren’t the mulims he is worried about… Unfortunately, they never say anything.
Reading comprehension FAIL.
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I’m not ‘tarring an entire religion…’, but pointing out the fact that a dangerous subset of that religion represents an existential threat to every freedom-loving country in the world (including yours). And it is this SAME subset that liberal-democratic governments are bending over backwards to accommodate in the names of ‘diversity’ and ‘tolerance’, to their own eventual destruction.
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Just to break it down for you:
Most Muslims = OK
Radical minority within Islam = very, very BAD.
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Hopefully this distinction will defuse any knee-jerk reactions to my expressed opinions.
I definitely agree with this, somehow Americans think that without America there would be no freedom in the world. They need to wake up.
You’re right. You wouldn’t have Pizza Hut or KFC or anything. Your ass would be speaking German or Russian right now. And when the next threat to your country comes along and the U.S. bails you out so you can again govern yourselves (not take you over, idiot), it would be nice if your children or your children’s children didn’t forget about it and start whining about equal pay for whomever like little brainwashed socialist “useful idiots”.
Um, yeah, who wants equal pay anyway? Obviously white people should get paid more; grubb is right about this one.
You really have no idea do you?
Who’s forgotten about the War?
And how is that relevant to this situation?
If the US left Europe TODAY, the outcome of the Second World War would still be the same. And I’m pretty sure that we’d all be speaking English still. And forming slightly more logical arguments than you.
Okay, ignoring the usual rubbish about the Second World War, which I frankly don’t care wether your country helped us or not, because I wasn’t their and neither were you so, neither of us can really make any coherent statements about it, WTF is up with that “whining about equal pay for whomever like little brainwashed socialist “useful idiots”.” comment? I mean, seriously, what are you smoking? You really are a good little capitalist, aren’t you? Half the problem in your country is that you think socialism is a dirty word. Social Health Care? Can’t have that! It’s communist! Better our poor die rather than get treatment they need. Besides, only the rich deserve health care anyway, right? And equal pay for equal work? Whoever heard of such a ridiculous idea?
I’m trying to think of words to describe how utterly insulted I am by your attitude that equal pay is somehow a bad thing. I’m also at a loss to understand why you brought up the war when I never mentioned it. Try again with an argument that makes some kind of sense.
“If women and minorities were equal then there wouldn’t be such a huge gap between the average wage of white males and every other demographic.”
The statement never said that there was equality for one and all. Nope the statement just said that as people we obligated to seek practice and defend it.
Unlike a stripper, these things are not known to fall on your lap.
“If the USA ceased to exist the rest of the world wouldn’t lose Life, Liberty or the Pursuit of Happiness (whatever those pithy words actually mean nowadays).”
pithy – brief, forceful, and meaningful in expression; full of vigor, substance, or meaning; terse; forcible.
nowadays – at the present day; in these times
No you’re right. Nations come and go. Only philosphpy can overcome philosophy, and apathy.
But it’s not like you’re apathetic, right?
Whoops! I meant:
Philosophy can only be overcome by philosophy and apathy.
Tee hee.
No, you’re absolutely right, I’m not apathetic. I’m a social activist, who’s out there trying to change my country for the better. I’ve lobbied the government of this country to change it for the better and, in some cases, stop it changing for the worse. The causes I’ve fought for haven’t always succeeded but I’ve never sat back and not fought because it was difficult to change the world. Can you say the same?
’social activist’, eh? I know that’s a code-word for HIPPIES.
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“Hippies, hippies all around me. They say they wanna save the Earth, but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad.”
Define normal, please.
[Citation needed]
I take that as a complement Blak, as a devotee of Xasthur and Venom, I take that as a complement, coming from someone like you. Jesus rockzors.
Ah great, a moron that rivals the one is this clip. Go light yourself on fire.
is he was a terrorist, perhaps it was a ‘terrorist win’ ?
dont they work in Middle East…??? or they get paid to protest everyday and burn american flags?
There’s a huge American flag industry in the Middle East, every family needs one to burn on Sunday.
Actually, unemployment rates in the Middle East are higher than in any other region of the world.
stupid oil rich countries, why don’t they take care of their people?
You call him a terrorist for burning a flag? Maybe he’s burning it because his family died in this idiotic war. How should we call the americans then?
Exactly, people are too closed-minded.
No one burns their flags when they kill us.
That’s because not only did we start this stupid war, but we also have different customs to them.
No, we get better revenge and steal the fuckers’ oil.
ema, if the US was invaded by some country, i’m sure americans would burn that country’s flag just like that. Try thinking about politics from all perspectives not just from the news channels’ propagandist point of view.
They were burning our flags way way before we “invaded” them.
“btw, what does your flag look like?”
“same as yours… but on fire!”
Bush should just take a break on Iraq. So many people hate America just because of him. They start to forget the heroes of a long time ago; George Washington and crew to name a few.
But seriously, that is a fail. You burn our fail, flag immediately burns you.
Lemme just say this; regardless of your opinion on flag burning, this guy set himself on FIRE!!! Does it really matter WHAT he’s burning?
Not at all!
Idiot (insert item here) burner….
I do find it ironic that the safety of the mob could not protect him from his own carelessness.
“No, not shaky at all, or else you’d be able to mount a solid argument against it, but you didn’t even try.”
I didn’t try because this is failblog.com, not because I don’t have anything.
“Show me the Supreme Court ruling where it says any of that.”
Political Science was a few years ago, but there was a case out of Texas in which exactly what I said was upheld. YOU are the one who needs the remedial course, bucko. But, it makes sense that you are on FAILblog, spouting your claims as fact. Enjoy failing!
Uh. So far as I know, burning a flag is the correct way to dispose of it (usually if it is in a state of repair).
disrepair*
If he’s not a yank, what does it matter? If it’s not his national flag, he’s not committing any treasonous act. It’s not an act of terror, and doesn’t make him a terrorist. It’s merely insulting to the country for whom that flag has meaning. For everyone outside the yank bubble, it’s of zero significance.
Uh, you do know we Americans find that word slightly offensive, right? Just making sure.
I mean, how’d you like it if I went around calling British people “limeys?”
p.s., inability to edit posts fail!
Am I the only one getting tired of Mastercard knock off jokes?
nope, they totally suck camel ass.
I think what we’re looking for here is a little more respect for the country that provides you with all the rights to protest that you have already had since birth and obviously take for granted.
How many countries are you there where we could not even have this argument? Think about that the next time you feel so compelled to defend the people that would take your rights away in a heartbeat, and poo-poo the country and flag for whom many have actually died (yes it’s true) so that you can make your theoretical, relativist arguments like spoiled little brats with no historical perspective on all the good that has come into the world as a direct result of the United States existence.
Taking rights for granted? Who is doing that, liberals who fight for human rights even in unpopular cases, or conservatives who want to sacrifice liberty for a little temporary safety from terrorism?
Who is more relativist, the people who think the US should be held to objective moral standards, or the ones who think it’s good enough for us to be better than [insert bad guy here].
Who has more respect for America, the people who push her to live up to her ideals, or the ones who have so little confidence in her underlying worth that they can’t bear to watch her missteps challenged?
You fail; next time try a little more thought and a little less ad hominem.
Very well put.
leftie hyperbole WIN
So we should be so happy we have the right to do something we shouldn’t do it because that would be an insult to those people who fought and died to ensure we had the right to do it?
Are you aware of how wrong that argument is?
Is this a failblog post or an episode of Hannity and Colmes?
What’s the difference? Hannity and Colmes fail continuously.
The people in the background are laughing at him
I wish gas was 2 dollars
Everyone… get out of your asses. No one cares about your internet smarts and thoughts on politics. The point here is that someone set himself on fire trying to light the flag on fire… that’s funny! I hate politics, it can make everyone look like an asshole no matter what your view is.
You can hate politics w/ everything you have, but you still a victim of it. Think about it. Already thought and still hating? Think again.
Sure… asshole. Take some typing lessons.
The original image, with the “priceless” quote tagged on at the end, has been on the internets for a loooong time. I know I saw it back in high school, not long after 9/11 IIRC…
Political fail: If you burn w/ the flag, at last hardly hug the stupid Mr. President, so he can die w/ you.
Don’t burn the flag, BURN THE DAMN SHITTY COUNTRY TROUGH THE FUKN GROUND ONCE AND FOR ALL.
‘hardly hug’? is that like an ‘air kiss’?
I dunnow, I thought that dirt was not flammable.
amen
American flag in fire is always a nice image. To hell, USA.
Hater!!
Stupid asshats who ignite themselves while trying to set something on fire is always a funny image.
Same goes for failtards who can’t grasp basic rules of grammar.
lol
ti tika
I would love to know what everyone who hates American thinks that America should have done after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. They seem all so smart, and have all the answers I’m sure someone can tell us all what was the “right” thing to do.
Here’s an easy five step plan:
1. Kill the people who planned 9/11 (Al Qaeda)
2. Don’t kill people who had nothing to do with 9/11 (Iraq)
3. Stop burning so much oil, which funds terrorism.
4. Stop supporting the brutal regimes all around the world which inspire terrorism.
5. Stop sexually abusing Muslim detainees and flushing Korans down the toilet; that tends to piss people off.
1. We have been.
2. When the people who planned 9/11 wear namebadges identifying themselves as “9/11 Plotters & Friends” and stop concealing t